Originally posted by KontonNot quite what I was getting at. They get respect because they are cosmic menaces who weild their powers in overtly destructive ways, while she doesn't, because she is benevolent and protective, so people don't give her her due. Her power is still comparable to theirs.
Truth! I've found truth!I'm all for real life misogyny, but you leave my comic womenz alone.
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As for how much you like real life misoginy, well, whatever floats your boat, champ.
Originally posted by 753
Gaea lacks battle feats, but she doesn't really need them. Her status, other feats and recognized power level are enough here.
True but feats go a long way to help us gauge power levels (especially if the combatants never directly fought before).
I doubt we'd be having this discussion if it was Father Set or Cthon vs these 2.
The difference is Set and Chthon have some feats to their name. In Set's case : causing Gaea to flee and summon Demogorge, the million year battle with Demogorge, imprisoning Gaea and holding her captive with no way to reach out for help (something that amazed Thor), etc...
Yet I still don't see Set (or Chthon or Gaea) taking Odin or Zeus. For all Set's (or Gaea or Chthon) feats, Odin's are still vastly superior. Set, Gaea, or Chthon have never been shown busting galaxies, shaking the multiverse or threatening the destruction of all creation as a side effect of any of their fights.
Set/Gaea/Chthon don't have objects of power that they created that can rival the Asgardian Destroyer.
So........
Originally posted by 753True however Odin is pretty much top teir in terms of skyfathers and Zeus is more or less his equal. In comics and using ABC logic two guys one teir below another can take someone of a higher tier down.
Elder Gods lack feats because they are supposed to be vague and larger than life. Their accepted power level is above skyfathers.
Why are Elder Gods considered to be above Skyfathers exactly? Ignoring the fact that like 90% of the Elder Gods are just random demonic entities, was it pointed out somewhere that Elder Gods are above Skyfathers, or is just something people assume because the word "Elder" is in their name?
I'd give Odin odds over either Set or Chthon. At least a higher end Odin. Unless I'm forgetting something that Set or Chthon accomplished.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusnot all of them but the remaining 4, and its in a comic when they compared the current earth gods and the elder gods they called the current "lesser gods" iirc it was the watcher narrating the story or something
Why are Elder Gods considered to be above Skyfathers exactly? Ignoring the fact that like 90% of the Elder Gods are just random demonic entities, was it pointed out somewhere that Elder Gods are above Skyfathers, or is just something people assume because the word "Elder" is in their name?
Originally posted by zopzopmerlyn not being able to affect chthon puts him much above skyfather, merlyn is one of the guys who went up against mad jim jaspers and is known as the omniversal guardian
True but feats go a long way to help us gauge power levels (especially if the combatants never directly fought before).The difference is Set and Chthon have some feats to their name. In Set's case : causing Gaea to flee and summon Demogorge, the million year battle with Demogorge, imprisoning Gaea and holding her captive with no way to reach out for help (something that amazed Thor), etc...
Yet I still don't see Set (or Chthon or Gaea) taking Odin or Zeus. For all Set's (or Gaea or Chthon) feats, Odin's are still vastly superior. Set, Gaea, or Chthon have never been shown busting galaxies, shaking the multiverse or threatening the destruction of all creation as a side effect of any of their fights.
Set/Gaea/Chthon don't have objects of power that they created that can rival the Asgardian Destroyer.
So........
Originally posted by quanchi112the remaning 4 all have creating an artifact which is part of the courner stones of creation, the courner stones were destroyed once and it caused no one in the universe to have magic
He's asking why anyone believes so. Your response didn't answer that you just made another unsupported statement like it's a fact.
not to mention they all created Pocket Universes of there own (father set created 6 of them)
shuma gorath recently used sets serpan crown to summon himself to earth
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CPost an actual scan.
the remaning 4 all have creating an artifact which is part of the courner stones of creation, the courner stones were destroyed once and it caused no one in the universe to have magicnot to mention they all created pocket universe of there own (father set created 6 of them)
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post an actual scan.
I can do it when I get home. Gaea/Set/Oshtur/Chthon each created a Cornerstone of Creation :
Set - Serpent Crown
Chthon - Dark Mirror
Gaea - Ebon Rose
Oshtur - Sword of Bone
If anything happens to even one of these objects all magic in the universe is going down or being affected severely.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big Ceither or.
which one? the one where the courner stones disrupted all magic in the universe or the one of each elder god created a pocket universe? either way i willl take some time to dig up these old comicbooks
Originally posted by zopzopGood I will be awaiting these scans.
I can do it when I get home. Gaea/Set/Oshtur/Chthon each created a Cornerstone of Creation :Set - Serpent Crown
Chthon - Dark Mirror
Gaea - Ebon Rose
Oshtur - Sword of BoneIf anything happens to even one of these objects all magic in the universe is going down or being affected severely.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]A portion of Odin's power has created a separate dimension.
Each of the Elders have their own pocket dimesion aka pocket universe that's actually inhabited by worshipers/creations :
Gaea - Avalon
Oshtur - Astral Plan
Chthon - Flickering Realm
Set - Serpent's Sea
Plus the four of them created the "Crossroads" which makes travel between the inner (their 4 created realms) and the outer planes (the crimson cosmos of cytorrak, dream dimension, etc...) possible.
I'm not sure how powerful the four cornerstones are, or how they were created.
All magic in the universe is affected by them. If even one goes down, major problems occur.
Originally posted by zopzop
Each of the Elders have their own pocket dimesion aka pocket universe that's actually inhabited by worshipers/creations :Gaea - Avalon
Oshtur - Astral Plan
Chthon - Flickering Realm
Set - Serpent's SeaPlus the four of them created the "Crossroads" which makes travel between the inner (their 4 created realms) and the outer planes (the crimson cosmos of cytorrak, dream dimension, etc...) possible.
Okay? The residual energy of an Odin enchanted sword created a dimension complete with it's own Asgardian counterparts, and races.
Okay? Is there a reason why that's more impressive than the rainbow bridge?
Originally posted by zopzop
All magic in the universe is affected by them. If even one goes down, major problems occur.
Unless the items (At least the Serpent Crown) have more to them than meets the eye, I'm not impressed.