Sabretooth vs. Sebastian Shaw.

Started by Starscream M10 pages

is this a passive power or an active (ie. he has to will himself to absorb energy)

Right before he absorbs the energy he has to hum the theme song to Chips or it doesn't work.

Originally posted by Mindset
If by invisible shield you mean his power to absorb kinetic energy, then yes.

Yeah, but I am having so much difficulty understanding why there won't be any damage done onto Shaw. Bishop has been sliced before. Maybe I am too drunk?

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Originally posted by Mindset
Right before he absorbs the energy he has to hum the theme song to Chips or it doesn't work.

if his power is passive, then technically that means he can't punch or hit with any force either.

in physics, whatever force you exert is exerted back against you.

Originally posted by Starscream M
if his power is passive, then technically that means he can't punch or hit with any force either.

in physics, whatever force you exert is exerted back against you.

Newton's Third Law. I still don't buy it that Shaw can't get cut by a knife. I don't know. There is nothing to protect him from getting sliced. He can absorb the energy obviously, but can't be invincible to slicing.

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Originally posted by pinksushi1
Yeah, but I am having so much difficulty understanding why there won't be any damage done onto Shaw. Bishop has been sliced before. Maybe I am too drunk?

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Shaw absorbs physical damage applied to his body and stores it.
Bishop absorbs energy based attacks. Like a battery.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Newton's Third Law. I still don't buy it that Shaw can't get cut by a knife. I don't know. There is nothing to protect him from getting sliced. He can absorb the energy obviously, but can't be invincible to slicing.

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well I guess the logic is if you put the edge of a knife on your skin but don't apply force, it prob won't cut through

Originally posted by the ninjak
Shaw absorbs physical damage applied to his body and stores it.
Bishop absorbs energy based attacks. Like a battery.
shaw doesn't absorb damage, he absorbs kinetic energy IIRC.

Bullets don't harm Shaw, correct? Sabretooth shouldn't be able to cut him then.

Originally posted by Starscream M
shaw doesn't absorb damage, he absorbs kinetic energy IIRC.

Just trying to break it down easy for the kid 🙂

Originally posted by the ninjak
Shaw absorbs physical damage applied to his body and stores it.
Bishop absorbs energy based attacks. Like a battery.

Shaw also absorbs energy attacks, from Cyclops, Havok. etc.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Shaw also absorbs energy attacks, from Cyclops, Havok. etc.
so is Shaw invulnerable to fire, radiation as well?

Originally posted by Starscream M
so is Shaw invulnerable to fire, radiation as well?

Radiation would be a problem.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Radiation would be a problem.

Didn't Shaw defeat Holocaust?

Comics seem to be inconsistent when it comes to issues of heat and force -- for instance, gaze weapons that are supposed to consist of one or the other often appear to take on other qualities (sometimes Superman's heat-vision appears concussive, Cyke's blasts act like lasers, etc.). Some of Shaw's absorption feats appear to exceed the kinetic stipulation.

BUT YES, PINKSUSHI, when Creed or Logan try to cut Shaw, the effect should be that, when they hit him, they lose all momentum, and it's as if they were gingerly holding their claws against his skin without making any attempt to cut him. Falling on a spike shouldn't affect him either. Fire, radiation, and electricity should all affect him like a normal person, but marvel hasn't been consistent on this. It's possible he has other absorptive powers that aren't fully outlined. Sabretooth literally has NO WAY of beating him without using features of the battlefield against him (BFRing somehow, using equipment in a high-tech lab, or something like that).

Originally posted by Simbon
Comics seem to be inconsistent when it comes to issues of heat and force -- for instance, gaze weapons that are supposed to consist of one or the other often appear to take on other qualities (sometimes Superman's heat-vision appears concussive, Cyke's blasts act like lasers, etc.). Some of Shaw's absorption feats appear to exceed the kinetic stipulation.

BUT YES, PINKSUSHI, when Creed or Logan try to cut Shaw, the effect should be that, when they hit him, they lose all momentum, and it's as if they were gingerly holding their claws against his skin without making any attempt to cut him. Falling on a spike shouldn't affect him either. Fire, radiation, and electricity should all affect him like a normal person, but marvel hasn't been consistent on this. It's possible he has other absorptive powers that aren't fully outlined. Sabretooth literally has NO WAY of beating him without using features of the battlefield against him (BFRing somehow, using equipment in a high-tech lab, or something like that).

So basically Shaw's skin can't be cut or pierced then.

sabretooth should just cough on him, shaw never got any shots.

and is he safe from prison raep?

How many posts in this thread have pertained to Sabretooth and Shaw actually fighting and how their fight would go?

Originally posted by pinksushi1
So basically Shaw's skin can't be cut or pierced then.

Not if the cutting is being powered by kinetic energy. EG sword swipe, thrown knife, bullets.

Something like a lightsabre or cutting lazer could likely do it.