Ares vs Zoom

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Originally posted by Lord Feron
He is not a abstarct but nate did say he was unique. He was constant in all timestreams. Not sure what that means completely but atleast we know time manipulation of any sort will not work on Ares.

As i said before if Zoom tries to make physical contact I don't think Zoom time amped punches are going to have the effect Zoom think it would. It would be a punch of a normal man imo.

But Zoom's time thing does not affect his target at all. Pretty much the opposite- if it did, it wouldn't hurt so much.

Originally posted by Blanket
Essentially left the battlefield as in he wasn't there for anyone to see. Otherwise he would have left his body there to get demolished?

But I'm saying that if this is Ares' power, then the blitzing might not even come if he's able to so easily wade through time. As well as him able to know Nate's in time, then it would seem as this is just an easy power to pull off, and may seem as though he'd see Zoom as normal speed the whole time.

I'm saying that I don't think they actually left the physical battlefield at all. I mean, if they stepped outside of the timestream/in between moments, that would have just frozen time around them, no?

Could be. But time isn't frozen around Zoom (like it was around Nate), but rather, Zoom is contained within a time-bubble that exists ahead of the normal timestream -- so Ares would have to single out, and step into, said time-bubble before he could do anything. Aside from that, even if Ares were capable of the above (big IF imo), he would have to do so within the first few attoseconds of the match, or else Zoom would have already tagged him multiple times... And I don't think Ares' thought/reaction speed is THAT amped.

*shrugs*

well if ares knows zooms powers he would be ready to step in

Originally posted by Q99
But Zoom's time thing does not affect his target at all. Pretty much the opposite- if it did, it wouldn't hurt so much.

Well not directly. BUt the reason he can move so fast and punch so hard is because he is in his own little timestream which he can always be a touch ahead of "faster." The thing is that by making contact with the outside world he is bringing his timeline which is "faster" to create influence on the normal time. Since Ares is how nate said "constant" in past and present no matter what I think Ares is unique in a way that Zooms powers should not work on him.

I mean there is a way around this, Zoom can try to rip up the battlefield and throw Stuff at ares at great speeds. I mean zoom can win that way.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm saying that I don't think they actually left the physical battlefield at all. I mean, if they stepped outside of the timestream/in between moments, that would have just frozen time around them, no?

Could be. But time isn't frozen around Zoom (like it was around Nate), but rather, Zoom is contained within a time-bubble that exists ahead of the normal timestream -- so Ares would have to single out, and step into, said time-bubble before he could do anything. Aside from that, even if Ares were capable of the above (big IF imo), he would have to do so within the first few attoseconds of the match, or else Zoom would have already tagged him multiple times... And I don't think Ares' thought/reaction speed is THAT amped.

*shrugs*

BUt by tagging Ares, he is bringing his timestream in direct contact with the normal time of the world. Ares being what he is should not be afeected the same way everyone else is.

hey is there a way we can ask marvel, or there comic book writers questions?
i remember some one said they ask them who is stronger hulk or juggs and they said juggs has the edge or highest potential something

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hey is there a way we can ask marvel, or there comic book writers questions?
i remember some one said they ask them who is stronger hulk or juggs and they said juggs has the edge or highest potential something

I believe there's always Comic Cons for that sort of thing. Good luck getting a long or satisfying answer though. Unless you can catch them at a booth.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I believe there's always Comic Cons for that sort of thing. Good luck getting a long or satisfying answer though. Unless you can catch them at a booth.
whats the website?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
whats the website?
http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/

Originally posted by Galan007
http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/
wow you know i was stuck on that stupid crap 😠 and i cant even close the browser or change the page, the only way to stop it is to open a new browser and use that or restart your computer 😠 😠 😠 😠

Originally posted by Galan007
http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/

ur an @$$hole and you should be reported for that link.. 😠

I knew I should have used spoiler tags. They make everything ok. ✅

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm saying that I don't think they actually left the physical battlefield at all. I mean, if they stepped outside of the timestream/in between moments, that would have just frozen time around them, no?

Could be. But time isn't frozen around Zoom (like it was around Nate), but rather, Zoom is contained within a time-bubble that exists ahead of the normal timestream -- so Ares would have to single out, and step into, said time-bubble before he could do anything. Aside from that, even if Ares were capable of the above (big IF imo), he would have to do so within the first few attoseconds of the match, or else Zoom would have already tagged him multiple times... And I don't think Ares' thought/reaction speed is THAT amped.

I don't think they left the battlefield either. And although Ares' fight with Nate took place out time "between moments" I don't think it can be easily translated to an ability of Ares to forcefully step into Zoom's personalized time-stream.

At the same time though, I don't think Ares' reaction speeds have anything to do with whether he would or not...

Originally posted by Lord Feron
BUt by tagging Ares, he is bringing his timestream in direct contact with the normal time of the world. Ares being what he is should not be afeected the same way everyone else is.
... because this is a very real possibility. I'm not sure it's by conscious effort that Ares did what he did. It could very well be his status as "war personified on every plane, in every future" that does.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
At the same time though, I don't think Ares' reaction speeds have anything to do with whether he would or not.
If a conscious effort on Ares' part is required for him to 'step in between moments', then reaction time has quite a bit to do with it.

^ Mighty big "if."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm not sure it's by conscious effort that Ares did what he did. It could very well be his status as "war personified on every plane, in every future" that does.

Granted. Meh, there's no way to be 100% sure either way.

Originally posted by Galan007
http://home.comcast.net/~wolfand/
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
wow you know i was stuck on that stupid crap 😠 and i cant even close the browser or change the page, the only way to stop it is to open a new browser and use that or restart your computer 😠 😠 😠 😠

Hahah, Galan once got me with a Rick Ashley link...

Spoiler:
bastard

Heh I forgot about that one.... Might have to resurrect it. hmm

😛

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm saying that I don't think they actually left the physical battlefield at all. I mean, if they stepped outside of the timestream/in between moments, that would have just frozen time around them, no?

Could be. But time isn't frozen around Zoom (like it was around Nate), but rather, Zoom is contained within a time-bubble that exists ahead of the normal timestream -- so Ares would have to single out, and step into, said time-bubble before he could do anything. Aside from that, even if Ares were capable of the above (big IF imo), he would have to do so within the first few attoseconds of the match, or else Zoom would have already tagged him multiple times... And I don't think Ares' thought/reaction speed is THAT amped.

*shrugs*

Ares says that he's hiding between time. And their scuffle caused Karla to react to her losing a memory because of it (which means she was able to move as this was going on, so why didn't she just attack Nate who was apparently on the battlefield?), as well as tribes showing worship. Doesn't sound like merely freezing time around themselves.

And Nate was showing Mimic his timeline, inside a time bubble that Mimic wasn't allowed to touch, or he could screw with things accidently. Sounds familar to Zoom's powers IMO (only in their own timeline of course). Only difference is that Zoom is 'right there', as opposed to hiding among time.
IMO, it seems as if Ares would be able to see him in real time, but that's just MO.
Although the strategy of Zoom touching him once and accidently inviting Ares in seems like a real possibility.

Originally posted by Galan007
Granted. Meh, there's no way to be 100% sure either way.