How much stronger is Superboy Prime than Superman

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime was getting beat on as well so I guess it all cancels itself out. Both were getting beaten on while Prime was getting the worst of it while weakened. I guess I win no matter which way you want to look at it.

Yes, I read it and yes he was overwhelmed hence the lightning shot. if he wasn't held in check it wouldn't have hit him. I guess you haven't read it in a while.

Again, typing the same thing like a brick wall won't change I have already laid out my reasoning. Thanos beats Surfer like he doesn't even matter while Prime would beat Superman but not as decisively.

His armor wasn't damaged before the feat so what's your point?

I'm being honest when I say you're one of the poorest sports on the net. You need to relax and try to be better than this.

Prime was healed when he broke free from all the heroes. Black Adam was heavily damaged when he broke free from all the heroes. I guess you didn't read the ending of World War III.

He was not overwhelmed and contained for the lightning to hit him. Good lord. You really didn't read the end of World War III did you? This entire time we've been talking about it...

Trying to act like there's no disconnect between "it's speculation that SMP beats Superman" and "SMP beats Superman 10/10" is pure idiocy. I don't care if you changed your mind, but quaneuvering and acting like you haven't is just idiotic.

The point: Acting like Monarch's armor was immune to damage against a Guardian-amped SMP is nonsensical.

I'm being honest when I say that you shouldn't project your own "poor sports[manship]" onto others.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Prime was healed when he broke free from all the heroes. Black Adam was heavily damaged when he broke free from all the heroes. I guess you didn't read the ending of World War III.

He was not overwhelmed and contained for the lightning to hit him. Good lord. You really didn't read the end of World War III did you? This entire time we've been talking about it...

Trying to act like there's no disconnect between "it's speculation that SMP beats Superman" and "SMP beats Superman 10/10" is pure idiocy. I don't care if you changed your mind, but quaneuvering and acting like you haven't is just idiotic.

The point: Acting like Monarch's armor was immune to damage against a Guardian-amped SMP is nonsensical.

I'm being honest when I say that you shouldn't project your own "poor sports[manship]" onto others.

Good job on the ^^^^. 😂 Told ya sport.

Prime was reenergized he didn't get a full health bar. LOL. I did read the end and id you had which you keep saying you did you'd realize he was overwhelmed and depowered.

Says the guy who dodges my questions and posts the same statements over and over again. You have my reasoning and why I stated what I stated. You can continue to ignore it and repeat yourself but it only hurts you in the end.

The point:Acting like it was weakened enough for Prime to break it open wasn't portrayed or hinted at in the actual comics. Looks like the comics support me in the end again.

I don't lose. That's the thing.

Nice quick edit. You just wasted yourself time. Use the quote button from now on.

^ Still using them when your post is right above mine.

"Full health bar?" You've already stated that SMP was "fully powered" when he threw people off him. Black Adam was not overwhelmed. Not even once. Jebus.

Black Adam was not contained. He was throwing people off him right to the very end. Reread the ending to World War III.

There is no ignoring the difference between "it's speculation that SMP beats Superman" and "SMP beats Superman 10/10." Neither is ignoring your quaneuvering over trying to act like there's no disconnect there.

Hinted at? It's common sense that you take a pounding and you'll suffer damage. Stop forcing me to patronize you.

Lose what? Your credibility? Your dignity? Your self-respect? Pretty sure once you started throwing parades for yourself in every post, those went out the window.

No thanks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's because he favors dc characters and batman prime reads my posts still. He responds to me still but just doesn't quote me.

First part is for Omega i guess. And yes i read your posts, you are funny sometimes 😉. If you reread my post carefully i never denied that i read you posts, i said i don't read h1a8 posts anymore. Or is he your sock!? omg_smilie

If i have enough of you i put you on ignore for some weeks, but this doesn't last you are to irresistible sweety 😍

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
First part is for Omega i guess. And yes i read your posts, you are funny sometimes 😉. If you reread my post carefully i never denied that i read you posts, i said i don't read h1a8 posts anymore. Or is he your sock!? omg_smilie

If i have enough of you i put you on ignore for some weeks, but this doesn't last you are to irresistible sweety 😍

I doubt Quanchi and h1a8 are the same unless he has a Jekyll and Hyde persona.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I doubt Quanchi and h1a8 are the same unless he has a Jekyll and Hyde persona.

Which would explain a lot. Maybe an split personality. Quanchi112 from the past contradicts Quanchi112 from present as we have seen.

biscuits

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Still using them when your post is right above mine.

"Full health bar?" You've already stated that SMP was "fully powered" when he threw people off him. Black Adam was not overwhelmed. Not even once. Jebus.

Black Adam was not contained. He was throwing people off him right to the very end. Reread the ending to World War III.

There is no ignoring the difference between "it's speculation that SMP beats Superman" and "SMP beats Superman 10/10." Neither is ignoring your quaneuvering over trying to act like there's no disconnect there.

Hinted at? It's common sense that you take a pounding and you'll suffer damage. Stop forcing me to patronize you.

Lose what? Your credibility? Your dignity? Your self-respect? Pretty sure once you started throwing parades for yourself in every post, those went out the window.

No thanks.

You just had to edit because it was at the bottom of the page. Gotcha. Feel the quan sizzle.

Yes, because his power levels returned he didn't get a clean bill of energy. Do you know the difference?

If he wasn't overwhelmed then Marvel would have missed. The guy's face was practically taken off yeah he was doing fine there, onedodge.

Again, I explained myself and you are wrong.

Which has nothing to do with power levels being lower or higher than. Be serious for a moment.

Don't try to turn this into another insult war you are prone to create. Accept you lost admit it and move on.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
First part is for Omega i guess. And yes i read your posts, you are funny sometimes 😉. If you reread my post carefully i never denied that i read you posts, i said i don't read h1a8 posts anymore. Or is he your sock!? omg_smilie

If i have enough of you i put you on ignore for some weeks, but this doesn't last you are to irresistible sweety 😍

I try to not make as many jokes because I don't want to focus on my humor creating powers and take away from my debating skills.

You really think I'd create a sock just to oppose? I guess that would make me the sock since he registered long before I did. Wow.

^I think you missed the point, your "debatic skills" are humor nothing more nothing less 🙂.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
^I think you missed the point, your "debatic skills" are humor nothing more nothing less 🙂.
I could say the same thing about yours but I don't find ignorance funny.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just had to edit because it was at the bottom of the page. Gotcha. Feel the quan sizzle.

Yes, because his power levels returned he didn't get a clean bill of energy. Do you know the difference?

If he wasn't overwhelmed then Marvel would have missed. The guy's face was practically taken off yeah he was doing fine there, onedodge.

Again, I explained myself and you are wrong.

Which has nothing to do with power levels being lower or higher than. Be serious for a moment.

Don't try to turn this into another insult war you are prone to create. Accept you lost admit it and move on.

Yes. Exactly. Because it's not clear what I'm responding to. How did you burn me by pointing that out?

I don't know what difference you're trying to rely on. He was "fully powered" according to you.

Why don't you tell me exactly what happened at the end of World War III and point out where the heroes subdued/overwhelmed/contained Black Adam.

Wrong about what? That "SMP beating Superman is speculation" is significantly different than "SMP beats Superman 10/10" is this what I'm wrong about?

What power levels? We're talking about whether Guardian-amped SMP doing no damage whatsoever to Monarch's armor is reasonable or not.

Again, don't project your own deficiencies in logic onto me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I could say the same thing about yours but I don't find ignorance funny.

I know that you think ignorance is serious business, it's a part of your famous "debating skillz" after all. You eloquent skill00r you. 🙂

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I know that you think ignorance is serious business, it's a part of your famous "debating skillz" after all. You eloquent skill00r you. 🙂
This from the guy who admits he doesn't read much marvel yet he continues to debate against the company.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This from the guy who admits he doesn't read much marvel yet he continues to debate against the company.

I'm less biased then you and i give Marvel chars the win, when they deserve it, oh and i read some marvel comics but not all, i read more dc comics but also far less then you think, still more then you i guess.

'cmon you are the biggest fanboy here. You wouldn't give Odin even 1 out of 10 against Thanos. Would you? Your Quanlogic is obviously only there to put Thanos over everyone else. And you abuse all other characters who have come in contact with him to show how unbiased you are and to show that he is the top dog. No one from DC is allowed to beat Odin because that would mean that they can beat Thanos etc. You logic is flawed and twisted but anyway. 🙂

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I'm less biased then you and i give Marvel chars the win, when they deserve it, oh and i read some marvel comics but not all, i read more dc comics but also far less then you think, still more then you i guess.

'cmon you are the biggest fanboy here. You wouldn't give Odin even 1 out of 10 against Thanos. Would you? Your Quanlogic is obviously only there to put Thanos over everyone else. And you abuse all other characters who have come in contact with him to show how unbiased you are and to show that he is the top dog. No one from DC is allowed to beat Odin because that would mean that they can beat Thanos etc. You logic is flawed and twisted but anyway. 🙂

I have been called dc biased on another site because I give Superman the majority against Gladiator when I can if I am biased give Glads the nod because they basically have the same powers.

I always go by the evidence. The evidence supports Thanos. I don;t want to derail this into being about me again.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yes. Exactly. Because it's not clear what I'm responding to. How did you burn me by pointing that out?

I don't know what difference you're trying to rely on. He was "fully powered" according to you.

Why don't you tell me exactly what happened at the end of World War III and point out where the heroes subdued/overwhelmed/contained Black Adam.

Wrong about what? That "SMP beating Superman is speculation" is significantly different than "SMP beats Superman 10/10" is this what I'm wrong about?

What power levels? We're talking about whether Guardian-amped SMP doing no damage whatsoever to Monarch's armor is reasonable or not.

Again, don't project your own deficiencies in logic onto me.

Because you don't need to do it. It's funny that you already screwed up.

His power levels returned he didn't become 100 percent healthy again.

When they beat him up and Marvel hurled the lighting onto him.

Yes, because I was comparing it to someone beating down the Surfer with ease while I think Prime would have to work for it more. Simple.

None was noted so why rest your case on his armor being weakened enough for him to rip it open?

I won.

^ "Screwed up?" Are you really criticizing me over how I decide to post using ^'s and the QUOTE button? Are you that desperate to troll me that you would pick up on such a menial thing?

According to you, he was "fully powered." Don't start with the quaneuvers again. I don't want to embarass you again. Just look over the last 18 pages before we start this again.

You didn't read the end the end of World War III. Concession accepted.

Simply contradictory, you mean. "Superman always rises against the odds. SMP beating Superman is speculation" compared to "SMP beats Superman 10/10." Right. Simply contradictory.

You going to ask me for handbooks now? It's common sense Monarch's armor would be weakened by Guardian-amped SMP's rampaging. It got ruptured by an alternate GL's blast.

You win more ridicule, good show. 👆

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ "Screwed up?" Are you really criticizing me over how I decide to post using ^'s and the QUOTE button? Are you that desperate to troll me that you would pick up on such a menial thing?

According to you, he was "fully powered." Don't start with the quaneuvers again. I don't want to embarass you again. Just look over the last 18 pages before we start this again.

You didn't read the end the end of World War III. Concession accepted.

Simply contradictory, you mean. "Superman always rises against the odds. SMP beating Superman is speculation" compared to "SMP beats Superman 10/10." Right. Simply contradictory.

You going to ask me for handbooks now? It's common sense Monarch's armor would be weakened by Guardian-amped SMP's rampaging. It got ruptured by an alternate GL's blast.

You win more ridicule, good show. 👆

Just funny is all.

Yes, he was fully powered up to normal levels his health wasn't at 100 percent though.

I did. If I didn't feel free to point out the inaccuracies of my post?

Superman didn't rise up to defeat henshaw. Supes didn't rise up to defeat Mantis and Kalibak. Superman didn't rise up to defeat the shadow demons in dotng. I just made you look foolish again. Your post reeks of fanboyism.

Then provide proof from the comic. You keep speculating and I keep winning.

^ 😐

"Fully powered up to normal levels" but he wasn't "at 100 percent though." Nice quaneuver.

The inaccuracy was when you stated that he was subdued or contained or held down. He wasn't.

... YOU'RE the one that stated Superman always rises up against the odds. I'm reflecting your own arguments back at you. How the hell am I foolish for your statements?!

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Superman have a one on one fight with Prime other than when he defeated him in infinite crisis? Did Prime defeat Superman? Supes has been overpowered many times but has managed to defeat his opponent. Now i am not saying that Superman defeats prime but until Prime beats him decisively all you are doing is speculating.
Looking at proof requires the ability to understand. I don't presume that much from you. But if you think allof Guardian-amped SMP's attacks < alternate GL attack. We'll just agree to disagree on that.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ 😐

"Fully powered up to normal levels" but he wasn't "at 100 percent though." Nice quaneuver.

The inaccuracy was when you stated that he was subdued or contained or held down. He wasn't.

... YOU'RE the one that stated Superman always rises up against the odds. I'm reflecting your own arguments back at you. How the hell am I foolish for your statements?!
Looking at proof requires the ability to understand. I don't presume that much from you. But if you think allof Guardian-amped SMP's attacks < alternate GL attack. We'll just agree to disagree on that.

His power levels were not his health. Seriously, you don't even read my comments.

He was beaten. If he was easily throwing them off as you say then the lightning would have missed. Common sense but then again I don't think you read it.

A hero usually rises up the odds but at most points in stories the need aid and other factors to play in to later defeat the threat.

Again, all times in the story when the armor was damaged it was noted except the time you stated it was weakened before Prime tore it off.

^ ... the fact that you're trying to distinguish "fully powered" as being different from "healthy" is about 10 lbs of stupid in a 5 lb bag.

You thikn you read it, but who is the last person Black Adam threw off of him?

I didn't ask you to explain your past statement. I was pointing out how ridiculous it was for you to call me out for making a foolish statement, when the foolish statement was your own. To which you're now defending against. Great, you're continuing the great internal argument of quanchi112. Fascinating when it's done live.

Again, you think it's reasonable to assume that not only are Guardian-amped SMP's attacks < alternate GL's. But they're so much weaker, they didn't even weaken his armor in the slightest. Agree to disagree.