Originally posted by KingD19
When Danger came to life, she couldn't hurt Pete at all, so she had to use his fear of hurting Kitty to get him to turn to normal.She knew Emma's shatterpoint and threatened to use it. Later on, she didn't even need the shatterpoint, she just threatened to drill a hole in her head.
Her shatter point is in her face. Danger was actively threatening to exploit it then and there, not just busting through Emma with force.
Emma's flaw is her only known weakness in diamond form and it is tiny. Not only that, its location isn't common knowledge. Colossus isn't shattering her.
I say Stalemate. Emma isn't nearly strong enough to compete, but she's durable enough to just sit there and lol.
Originally posted by KingD19
When Danger came to life, she couldn't hurt Pete at all, so she had to use his fear of hurting Kitty to get him to turn to normal.
Danger's analysis of Emma was "impenetrable at current mass."
Danger was bluffing, btw. If you recall the entire scene, Emma called her bluff and came out of diamond form because she knew Danger couldn't kill her.
Colossus, of course. Even if he couldn't hurt her (which I believe he can, even if -- being fair -- it took him awhile), she can't defeat him in her diamond form -- even if she has a degree of superstrength, it would still be far less than his. He wins by being able to pin her and force her to wear something gauche...
But what will pinning her do? It's not the same as a KO. She has never been showed to be KO'd in diamond form, save for one Cyclops incident which was after an alteration of her powers. Then again, she's been shown to be immune to Cyclop's beams entirely. I mean, that doesn't make sense because they are purely concussive, but comics are comics.
stalemate imo
Originally posted by Konton
But what will pinning her do? It's not the same as a KO. She has never been showed to be KO'd in diamond form, save for one Cyclops incident which was after an alteration of her powers. Then again, she's been shown to be immune to Cyclop's beams entirely. I mean, that doesn't make sense because they are purely concussive, but comics are comics.stalemate imo
#1: The latter part of my post was sardonic; Peter would never be so cruel as to put her in a Donatella Versace evening slip -- that's just cruel. Even Doom is like "Damn... what is your *damage*, Peter? I mean, seriously... at least get her a descent Vera Wang..."
#2: It isn't a stalemate; *he* can overcome/whelm *her*, routinely, but she can't do the same in turn, even marginally. In a forum fight, that would make him the winner, much as it would in a standard points fight. *Now*, if the OP had listed this as being a *durability* contest, then that is something completely different: I'd still say Colossus wins, but there would be a more legitimate debate involved at that point, and not the clear victory that it is here.