Originally posted by Konton
How is he going to "overwhelm" someone who doesn't feel ANYTHING?Yeah he's way stronger and could knock her around, but she'd just get back up and insult him every time. Yeah, she doesn't have the strength to hit him back any, but it doesn't really mean he has a usable advantage...
You beat them unti they don't want to fight anymore, besides, he can just BFR her. WHy can't you accept the fact that he can toss her a few miles away, ending the fight in his favor.
Originally posted by Konton
How is he going to "overwhelm" someone who doesn't feel ANYTHING?Yeah he's way stronger and could knock her around, but she'd just get back up and insult him every time. Yeah, she doesn't have the strength to hit him back any, but it doesn't really mean he has a usable advantage...
It doesn't matter whether she feels anything or not, or continues to hurl verbal insults (however harsh/witty they may be, and no doubt *would* be), or even that he can *harm* her, directly, in a physical way (though as I said, I think he could, given time) -- he can overwhelm her and prevent her from being able to take viable action in a Forum Fight; this is no different, contextually, than Spiderman being able to web a foe into a cocoon, or Xavier being able to put a target to sleep telepathically, or Wonder Woman using her lasso to force another into submission. In the three previous examples (except that the opponent is asleep in one), the target still has their own thoughts/expressions --Emma will no doubt tear Peter a new one, verbally; that doesn't help her win the fight. Peter wins because Emma has no way to defeat *him* in combat, while *he* can overwhelm her easily.
Again, this is a standard vs. fight, in a Forum Fight context; KO/Kill is *not* required for victory, as such, unless specified by the OP -- one opponent can defeat the other via incapacitation, BFR, neutralization, et al. (And like I said, personally it would have been better to have this be a durability contest -- at least that is a debatable issue, moreso than a standard vs. fight).
EDIT: Oh, and of course there is BFR, but that isn't necessary in this battle, merely an option.
Originally posted by Konton
So he throws her away. She gets up and walks back to him.That would go on forever. They don't get tired.
By that logic, every fight with Superman in it would end after one punch because he knocks people across continents.
Neither get tired or can permanently injure the other.
Konton, I have to say that I am a bit surprised at your flaw in perspective here: what you are describing is a durability/stamina debate, *NOT* a standard forum fight. As I already said, this would be much better as a durability (stamina, what-have-you) debate. As a Forum Fight, Colossus wins, with embarrassing ease; as a durability "fight", well... that can be debated, but in the long haul Emma's wit might make Peter cry, which could rank as at least a moral victory.
Originally posted by Konton
I suppose alcohol impairs my ability to remain unbiased.
No problem dude -- if you're as far gone as I'd like to be (I still have more shoveling to do, thanks to Snowpocalypse), then *you*, my friend, are the true victor in this discussion...
... (wonder if I can sucker Kelly out of some port... it's a good afternoon for sippin'...)
Originally posted by Konton
How is he going to "overwhelm" someone who doesn't feel ANYTHING?Yeah he's way stronger and could knock her around, but she'd just get back up and insult him every time. Yeah, she doesn't have the strength to hit him back any, but it doesn't really mean he has a usable advantage...
He could BFR her easily, it doesn't matter if she feels a thing or not, she can get knocked so far away with one punch whereas her punches against him shouldn't even tickle. Colossus has the advantage in their fight.
Originally posted by Konton
So he throws her away. She gets up and walks back to him.That would go on forever. They don't get tired.
By that logic, every fight with Superman in it would end after one punch because he knocks people across continents.
Neither get tired or can permanently injure the other.
If he knocks her from one state to another or even another city then she's bfr'd. She can't get back to the fight fast enough to continue. There's a difference in taking like 30 seconds to get back into the fight and 30 minutes.
been done:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=415221&pagenumber=1
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=321826
please use search in future. closed.