Originally posted by bbrem123
yes he will...current sentry/void doesnt give two shits...and now she is more resistant then MM himself...dont think so
So why didn't he "explode" Ares? Or Thor? Or Absorbing Man?
Answer: he can't do it easily or at will, despite the SINGLE comic that shows him somehow besting Owen and under dubious circumstances. Even if he can do it at a whim and chooses not to for whatever reason, CIS, as previously stated is still on.
Current Void/Sentry/Whatever beats Diana after a good fight.
Anything less gets beat.
Originally posted by bbrem123Pretty sure everybody has said that if Sentry is at his MM levels, he'll win.
yes he will...current sentry/void doesnt give two shits...and now she is more resistant then MM himself...dont think so
You can keep reiterating that point if it helps you on some level, but it's not bringing anything new to the discussion.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So why didn't he "explode" Ares? Or Thor? Or Absorbing Man?Answer: he can't do it easily or at will, despite the SINGLE comic that shows him somehow besting Owen and under dubious circumstances. Even if he can do it at a whim and chooses not to for whatever reason, CIS, as previously stated is still on.
Current Void/Sentry/Whatever beats Diana after a good fight.
Anything less gets beat.
it would make for a bad comic...sentry is insane he kills whatever way he feels like it...osborne give him the go ahead
and no it would not be close....before MM incident it would have...i said what i had to and ur in denial...soooooo i done with this argument
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Pretty sure everybody has said that if Sentry is at his MM levels, he'll win.You can keep reiterating that point if it helps you on some level, but it's not bringing anything new to the discussion.
no people are saying it would be a close fight...current sentry vs WW would not be all that close and im arguing that
Originally posted by JakeTheBankBecause it makes for a boring story. the same reason Thor doesn't use his most powerful attacks when his friends lives are on the line.
So why doesn't he just make people explode then?
Originally posted by Original SmurphBased on which showings? who has easily just showed a voided out Sentry up thus far?
By using her various weaponry and limbs to subdue or KO him.Superman's got superior feats to Sentry in hand to hand speed, skill and strength.
You do realize a voided out sentry is a lot more dangerous than the heroic Sentry.
Ares is also very skilled and it did him a lot of good.
Originally posted by Q99No, I said physically she can't take many sentry hits and gave WW Hulk as an example of the amount of punishment he can take which she can't. If she slams into a few Hulk punches she's getting ko'd. Sentry was purposely letting him hit him. He won't be fighting like that here but if he does he'd ko her and rather quickly.
Your argument makes little sense."She couldn't take on WWH, she'd need to use skill, which she has."
In *total overall combat ability*, she can go melee with WWH (and she's still tough enough against impacts to take some direct hits and keep going, but the point is, she does have bracers and dodging anyway).
He doesn't have quite her HtH skill, but he is still waaaaaay more skilled and experienced than Sentry, he's really good with all his powers and more skilled in flight. Skill wise, Diana > Clark >>> Bob. And that's being generous to Bob.
And if she just bracer-blocks all day? She's done that against foes stronger than normal Superman before (like Doomsdayified Superman).
And even no-holds-back Superman couldn't take her out quick because she fought back, dodged, broke free, etc., so I question your analysis.
"If Sentry hits her she goes down quickly" is like saying "If Nightcrawler doesn't teleport he goes down quickly," it's a useless statement without taking into consideration overall combat abilities.
If Sentry just stands there, Wonder Woman can take him down in 10 seconds no prob too.
This is a fight, not a 'who can stand there and take hits' competition.
Ares was a class 70 with none of her gear or speed or weapons or flight. He's a lot less tough, less strong, and less tricked out. Diana could curbstomp Ares in just as fast.
Give Ares Captain America's shield, Thors belt of strength and armor, and have Flash lend him a lot of speed and it'd be almost a comparable situation.
Again, Ares is way more skilled than the sentry and it didn't help him. That axe shot seemed to just irritate the Sentry. That's how insanely dangerous an all out Sentry is. The entire team of the dark avengers has always maintained if he ever goes nuts there is nothing any of them combined can do to stop him.
Supes ko'd her and with one good punch. She's ko'd if she doesn't re enter the atmosphere. Fight over. That's all it takes against Diana and without the plot protecting her on here she goes down and hard.
My point is Ares didn't even phase the Sentry. His void powers shrugged off that axe blow like it was nothing. Yeah, Sentry breaks her.
Originally posted by Original SmurphI guess you haven't read the siege then if you are going to say she can easily subdue him. There is no easy at all when it comes to the Sentry when it comes to beating him. If he decides to void out he could take multiple WW at once like they were nothing.
Diana's lassoed beings made of pure energy in the past buddy. And that really only applies to post-MM Sentry- I was referring to how she could beat all but MM Sentry, and to all but the current incarnation, physical blows would prove effective. As for the current incarnation, as I pointed out, she can still subdue him with the lasso pretty easily.
Originally posted by quanchi112What about Siege makes you believe that he wouldn't be subdued by the lasso?
I guess you haven't read the siege then if you are going to say she can easily subdue him. There is no easy at all when it comes to the Sentry when it comes to beating him. If he decides to void out he could take multiple WW at once like they were nothing.
Originally posted by Original SmurphI didn't say he wouldn't or couldn't I had a problem with you saying WW does it easily. I for one don't her getting the lasso around him but really thought it was preposterous for you to assume it's an easy thing to do.
What about Siege makes you believe that he wouldn't be subdued by the lasso?