Originally posted by quanchi112She's tagged far faster people with it, and people who use battle speed far more often. She's also tagged people who are typically far more powerful in battle.
I didn't say he wouldn't or couldn't I had a problem with you saying WW does it easily. I for one don't her getting the lasso around him but really thought it was preposterous for you to assume it's an easy thing to do.
So, you tell me why it wouldn't be relatively easy and then we can work from there.
Originally posted by Original SmurphIf we look at the showings Superman uses speed and the showings Sentry uses speed and break it down via appearance I think Sentry uses his speed more often. Sentry can avoid it just like Superman can.
She's tagged far faster people with it, and people who use battle speed far more often. She's also tagged people who are typically far more powerful in battle.So, you tell me why it wouldn't be relatively easy and then we can work from there.
Again, this is the sentry at his best. He physically stomps her.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowIf sentry holds back and is afraid of his own powers he tends to look bad but wheen he's sure of himself and not afraid to cut loose the guy's an absolute monster. You have to read at the end of siege 2 fury's speech telling them to stay away from the Sentry because you can't beat him. It's awesome stuff.
i use to gladly and proudly say sentry gets stomped by any flying brick with common sense now im afraid.... 🙁i just dont know any more....
MM simultaneously destroyed mjolnir, SS's board, CA' shield. Sentry is apparently above him, so destroying every piece of WW's equipment with a thought should be easy. The reason he doesn't 'just blow people up' isn't CIS, it's PIS. There would be nowhere to go with the story if he flips out, solos marvel earth and then blows his own head off.
Whether or not WW has displayed some resistance to matter manipulation is irrelevant because the sentry managed to do it to MM and it's unthinkable that her resistance to it would be greater than his.
Physically, he is at least a match for her, but even if she is the bettter warrior and blitzer what would that acomplish? Decapitation won't kill him, atomic desintegration won't kill him, he just reforms.
Besides this, what people don't seem to realize is that his brand of reality warping/matter manipulation have always been the sentry's powers. He just dressed them as superman-like powers because of his mental limitations. His strengh and speed, his durability and regeneration were all just him warping himself and the world arround him. If he wants her ripped in half, he will rip her in half, it doesn't matter how much more durable than ares she might be.
Even inexperienced with the true nature of his powers this is a stomp.
Originally posted by 753Exactly. People should know better than to think he'll use this tactics against Thor or anyone else for that matter.
MM simultaneously destroyed mjolnir, SS's board, CA' shield. Sentry is apparently above him, so destroying every piece of WW's equipment with a thought should be easy. The reason he doesn't 'just blow people up' isn't CIS, it's PIS. There would be nowhere to go with the story if he flips out, solos marvel earth and then blows his own head off.Whether or not WW has displayed some resistance to matter manipulation is irrelevant because the sentry managed to do it to MM and it's unthinkable that her resistance to it would be greater than his.
Physically, he is at least a match for her, but even if she is the bettter warrior and blitzer what would that acomplish? Decapitation won't kill him, atomic desintegration won't kill him, he just reforms.
Besides this, what people don't seem to realize is that his brand of reality warping/matter manipulation have always been the sentry's powers. He just dressed them as superman-like powers because of his mental limitations. His strengh and speed, his durability and regeneration were all just him warping himself and the world arround him. If he wants her ripped in half, he will rip her in half, it doesn't matter how much more durable than ares she might be.
Even inexperienced with the true nature of his powers this is a stomp.
Well said my good man. Sentry in a stomp like I claimed way back when.
Originally posted by 753
MM simultaneously destroyed mjolnir, SS's board, CA' shield. Sentry is apparently above him, so destroying every piece of WW's equipment with a thought should be easy. The reason he doesn't 'just blow people up' isn't CIS, it's PIS. There would be nowhere to go with the story if he flips out, solos marvel earth and then blows his own head off.Whether or not WW has displayed some resistance to matter manipulation is irrelevant because the sentry managed to do it to MM and it's unthinkable that her resistance to it would be greater than his.
Physically, he is at least a match for her, but even if she is the bettter warrior and blitzer what would that acomplish? Decapitation won't kill him, atomic desintegration won't kill him, he just reforms.
Besides this, what people don't seem to realize is that his brand of reality warping/matter manipulation have always been the sentry's powers. He just dressed them as superman-like powers because of his mental limitations. His strengh and speed, his durability and regeneration were all just him warping himself and the world arround him. If he wants her ripped in half, he will rip her in half, it doesn't matter how much more durable than ares she might be.
Even inexperienced with the true nature of his powers this is a stomp.
If this is confidence Sentry, even before the MM incident, he'll win this 8/10. Current Sentry wins 10/10 and easily if you ask me (and I love Wonder Woman and always tend to vote for her).
And when has Sentry ever been koed and during fights, EVERY fight, Sentry ALWAYS use his speed. Supes and Wonder Woman might have MORE showings than Sentry in regards to using their speed but Sentry use his speed in EVERY fight more consistant than the both of them put together.
Originally posted by Warlord
I guess for the same reason Thor doesn't godblast peopleall the time and superman doesn't use counter vibrations against any opponent.
Right, CIS.
And there's no reason for him to assume he can offensively matter manipulate people instantly or "explode" them in a forum setting unless the OP specificially states that CIS is off.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Right, CIS.And there's no reason for him to assume he can offensively matter manipulate people instantly or "explode" them in a forum setting unless the OP specificially states that CIS is off.
That goes for both I guess. I mean I don't see WW getting him in her lasso at once as she more likely would like to trade some punches.
IMO Sentry at the right mindset (terrax, dr doom, collective, gennis) could beat her after a hard fight.
jobber sentry goes down hard
as for current, he seems to be a big deal....let's wait to see more
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Right, CIS.And there's no reason for him to assume he can offensively matter manipulate people instantly or "explode" them in a forum setting unless the OP specificially states that CIS is off.
He does not need to use matter manipulate in this fight, he is just overrall more powerful.
I cant see Wonder Woman standing up during all of that pure energy Sentry was using against WW Hulk.
Originally posted by WarlordIn the right mindset he stomps her via morgana, terrax, ares, mm showings.
That goes for both I guess. I mean I don't see WW getting him in her lasso at once as she more likely would like to trade some punches.
IMO Sentry at the right mindset (terrax, dr doom, collective, gennis) could beat her after a hard fight.jobber sentry goes down hard
as for current, he seems to be a big deal....let's wait to see more
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
wasnt that classic MM? 🤨anyway Sentry still wins (he turn WW into his b**** (his dog i mean 😈 ))
It was, but they never retconned his feats, just his position in the cosmic hierarchy, so that is still within his power. Post-retcon mm feats remained consistant with that power level (to break all that stuff I mean, not to have LT begging for help), just look at his multidimensional battle with the beyonder or the way he handled the dark avengers.
Originally posted by 753wait one current MM DEFINITLY weaker then classic version
It was, but they never retconned his feats, just his position in the cosmic hierarchy, so that is still within his power. Post-retcon mm feats remained consistant with that power level (to break all that stuff I mean, not to have LT begging for help), just look at his multidimensional battle with the beyonder or the way he handled the dark avengers.
current MM warp the omniverse in small ways (plants becoming alive & burgers going hungry & all that lol) plus its actually his power & beyonders power combine wich did that
classic MM a lot better he can allmost match PR Beyonder & he can bust a billion universes with 1 blast, plus he FIX the omniverse with wave of hand after all the mess PR Beyonder made 😮💨
not sayin it take classic MM level to affect Surfers board Caps sheild & Thors hammer, but we dunno if current MM (or Sentry) could do it that easy...especially Thors hammer wich is magical (it was unafected by Beyonders blast same blast wich destroyed Caps sheild)
Again, Ares is way more skilled than the sentry and it didn't help him
Yea, and Ares would get absolutely stomped by Diana. If she went all-out she'd rip his head off.
What is with your arguments?
"Wonder Woman's a bit behind in strength, but way more skilled and has gear, speed, and several other advantages that make up for it and then some" "Yea, but Ares, who's also really skilled (at a fraction of the strength and speed) lost, so therefore skill is useless!"
That's an intellectually bankrupt argument.
Wonder Woman can use all her powers at once, believe it or not.
We're comparing the whole characters' across-the-board combat ability, not ignoring their speed, skill, toughness, or leaving out their gear like you are.
Supes ko'd her and with one good punch. She's ko'd if she doesn't re enter the atmosphere.
So you think hitting atmo at probably a few hundred mach has a *healing* effect at people, eh?
As opposed to her actual healing powers bringing her out of it in the same few seconds?
Hm, maybe everyone's been taking Wolverine's healing factor the wrong way. It's not the healing factor that fixes him up, it's the falling to the ground.
Oh, and btw, it's not one good punch when it's following other attacks including but not limited to full-strength heat vision to the face and being strangled likewise at full power (even Diana needs bloodflow to the brain).