Wonder Woman vs The Marvel Universe 2

Started by SoulDevourer4 pages

dint Bizaro escape th lasso? (he even snap it w/his strenght iirc...that make him stronger then Supe)

if he can do it why not Loki

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
dint Bizaro escape th lasso? (he even snap it w/his strenght iirc...that make him stronger then Supe)

if he can do it why not Loki

No, that was just a non-canon book, IMO not that good of one, at least when it came to Wondy.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
dint Bizaro escape th lasso? (he even snap it w/his strenght iirc...that make him stronger then Supe)

if he can do it why not Loki

It was non-canon and a ridiculous. The reason he was able to break it was not because of strength but because he is so twisted that he is not able to differentiate between truth and lies.

The lasso would be one of the best weapons you could have against Loki. I don't see how or why people are claiming she can't best him. She can see through illusions on her own or dispel them through the lasso, can deflect pretty much any projectile he sends her way, has the physical stats to engage him directly and win, has an innate defense against mystic forces on her own.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
It was non-canon and a ridiculous. The reason he was able to break it was not because of strength but because he is so twisted that he is not able to differentiate between truth and lies.

That Wondy was also pretty clearly weaker than mainstream Wondy.

Haven't Batman, Deathstroke and a Martian escaped the lasso before?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Haven't Batman, Deathstroke and a Martian escaped the lasso before?

The Deathstroke example was already explained in this thread. It doesn't apply if Diana actually intends to keep someone subdue.

The other 2, I don't think so?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Honestly, the only sure wins i see her getting is on 9 and 7.

This and 9 could actually be debatable.

The lasso's only relevant to her fight with Loki if he goes intangible. Otherwise, she can tank or avoid pretty damn near anything he can do, and just beat him down.

Clears it.

1. yes
2. prolly
3. yes
4. yes
5. yes
6. prolly
7. hell yes
8. Um... prolly not
9. doable but will be tough cause of Mr. F's big brain
10. tough

Loki's got intangibility and teleportation and magical shields. How's she hitting him with the lasso again?

Doesn't make it past Kurse.

Also, current Mags sucks. Who's writing him again? That douche Fraction? God I hate him.

That is all.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Loki's got intangibility and teleportation and magical shields. How's she hitting him with the lasso again?

Break through the shields, fast enough to catch up after the teleport, and her lasso works on the intangible.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Loki's got intangibility and teleportation and magical shields. How's she hitting him with the lasso again?
Teleporting only delays things. Shields can be broken, and she's lasso'd both intangible foes and those who don't even have corporeal forms.

Long time, no see.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Teleporting only delays things. Shields can be broken, and she's lasso'd both intangible foes and those who don't even have corporeal forms.

Long time, no see.

I forgot about her lassoing spirits and such, more remembering her failed attempts (initially) at lassoing Zoom and the like. But you're right about the intangibility. His shields have withstood repeated Mjolnir strikes though, and Diana doesn't have that kind of strength. But meh, where is my Norwegian to debate these things?

Yeah, been a while. Been busy and/or lazy. Actually I only got on here to PM Naija WTF happened in Siege #2? Did Sentry rip Ares in half or did he chop him up with the axe he was holding? Confused. As you can see, I'm a bit behind. Ha.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I forgot about her lassoing spirits and such, more remembering her failed attempts (initially) at lassoing Zoom and the like. But you're right about the intangibility. His shields have withstood repeated Mjolnir strikes though, and Diana doesn't have that kind of strength. But meh, where is my Norwegian to debate these things?

Yeah, been a while. Been busy and/or lazy. Actually I only got on here to PM Naija WTF happened in Siege #2? Did Sentry rip Ares in half or did he chop him up with the axe he was holding? Confused. As you can see, I'm a bit behind. Ha.

If he's maintaining shields that are going to stand up to Diana's repeated blows, then he won't be tossing out anything that's going to put her down, so it's just a matter of time.

Well, the resident Norwegian was perma-banned.

Pretty sure he ripped Ares in half, if that wasn't answered already.

Yeah, I went on hiatus for a while too. I was only drawn back when I saw there was another tourney going on, and now I've stuck around. Apparently I keep coming back. I feel like some sort of STD.

Originally posted by Q99
No, that was just a non-canon book, IMO not that good of one, at least when it came to Wondy.
why aint it canon? 🤨 afaik it dint happen in altarnate reality/timeline

Originally posted by Original Smurph
If he's maintaining shields that are going to stand up to Diana's repeated blows, then he won't be tossing out anything that's going to put her down, so it's just a matter of time.

Truthiness.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Well, the resident Norwegian was perma-banned.

Aw...

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Yeah, I went on hiatus for a while too. I was only drawn back when I saw there was another tourney going on, and now I've stuck around. Apparently I keep coming back. I feel like some sort of STD.

"KMC's Resident STD" ...sounds like a good title to me. You could also go with, "KMC's Black Lantern" if you aren't staying dead. 'Tis the season, afterall.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
why aint it canon? 🤨 afaik it dint happen in altarnate reality/timeline

Because it's an alternate version of the "meeting of the Trinity"; also, if it were, in fact, the Diana of Perez' era (time-wise), vs. a Bizarro scaled to a later time period, then certainly he would stomp her: that would have been a WW from 25 years - and several upgrades - ago. As far as the lasso, that is one of the situations (which I have addressed in other threads, and alluded to in this one) where Diana not being in "congruence" with truth got her in "trouble" -- Bizarro, in that story, was as stated a pure force of chaos, and not one *intended* to be subdued/contained (as stated)so the lasso did not bind him (allegorically similiar to how the lasso bound Ares in WW #6, 2nd series, and forced him to see the truth, but then released him afterwards, because as the God of War, it was his nature to do what he would do, but also it caused him to change his ways of doing things, and prevented him from being so nihilistic.)

With Loki, Diana would often trump him in many situations; conversely, she would find it nearly impossible to permanently remove him from the situation (i.e. kill him, or such) due to the truth of his nature/divine status. From a writing/story POV, I could easily see Loki being able to do "the impossible", and teleport out of the lasso, but only after admitting to being defeated: by withdrawing to fight another day/time, he is at once fulfilling the "truth" of his existence, by being defeated by The Power of Truth, but also surviving to deceive in the future, which is also the "truth" of his existence.

Originally posted by Spire
Clears it.

major lols