Originally posted by quanchi112Cool, almost dying is almost dying though.
Almost intercepting a pass isn't intercepting a pass. Almost dying isn't walking around saving the day also.
As it stands, he confronted Galactus and, due to his own stupidity, almost died.
Hey, we'll talk about how Thanos almost died later though, I'm gonna go watch some stolen movies.
Originally posted by MindsetIf you don't want to look at the end result and success sure, mindset sure.
Cool, almost dying is almost dying though.As it stands, he confronted Galactus and, due to his own stupidity, almost died.
Hey, we'll talk about how Thanos almost died later though, I'm gonna go watch some stolen movies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Almost losing the game isn't losing the game. Thanos achieved what he sought to achieve despite Galactus' buffoonery.I am saying Thanos didn't prep shielding in particular to go to war with Galactus. I am saying he used all shielding available to him at the time and this still taxed the shite out of Galactus.
He also knew he couldn't win a direct confrontation with Galactus but he needed to get his attention.
He used whatever shielding he had available which was less than what he had or used against a more powerful character. In both instances he triumphed.
I'm right and you're wrong.
Atrocious analogy. Are you a sports fan? Surely not.
Tanking the season is tanking the season. According to you, Thanos intentionally brought shields that had a high probability of getting him killed. So he wanted to be brought to his knees and beg for Galactus to listen to him for...what purpose? You don't enter into games with the intention of losing unless you're tanking. You don't intentionally put a game at risk because you're too comfortable with being under-prepared. And Thanos was at MORTAL peril. You should never be a coach or general manager.
So where is your proof that Thanos downgrades himself? Where's your proof that he scales his shields to match his opponent? How will you creatively respond to that challenge, I anticipate.
I'm right and you're wrong.
Originally posted by quanchi112Except when he gave up. I mean, isn't that your reasoning that Thanos didn't lose to Odin? Because he didn't give up?
Thanos used the best shielding he had available to him at the time which is less than against Omega because Omega was more powerful. It never stated three as well.To one shot someone you defeat them with one shot. Thanos wasn't beaten yet.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What is this wouldn't do it under his own power stuff? If he teleports away and then back that is his own power he's using. If he tanks the collateral damage via his shields.. again that is him doing so. I'm unclear what isn't his own power.
It means without using technology. Only his raw cosmic power.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
If Galactus is battling tyrant and Thanos is unleashing those kinds of blasts from behind... he'll feel them.. you best believe that.
When Galactus would battle FP Tyrant, Thanos would not be behind, because if he would be, he would quickly get destroyed. He would have to be far away from the battle to be unharmed.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeIt was stated he used all defensive shielding with him which ended up being enough. I have stated my reasoning and common sense once again backs me up.
Was it stated that he didn't bring his best shieldings with him? Or is this another Quanfiction on your part?dur
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIHe did have enough shielding available to get the job done.
Don't you know that Thanos prepares for any eventuality. Except for the times he doesn't. Like what this particular thanos fan has been arguing.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIThanos didn't lose though. The competition wasn't against Galactus he was there to help him not make a terrible decision and ended up having to rectify Galactus' buffoonery. I would be an excellent coach but that's neither here nor there.
Atrocious analogy. Are you a sports fan? Surely not.
Tanking the season is tanking the season. According to you, Thanos intentionally brought shields that had a high probability of getting him killed. So he wanted to be brought to his knees and beg for Galactus to listen to him for...what purpose? You don't enter into games with the intention of losing unless you're tanking. You don't intentionally put a game at risk because you're too comfortable with being under-prepared. And Thanos was at MORTAL peril. You should never be a coach or general manager.So where is your proof that Thanos downgrades himself? Where's your proof that he scales his shields to match his opponent? How will you creatively respond to that challenge, I anticipate.
This statement epitomizes your post. Your post was filled with backed up evidence and not delusional claims. And it's very easy to take a complete falsehood and state it as fact.
Thanos doesn't always use powerful shielding like he used against Omega. He did have enough shielding access to tax Galactus. Imo he'd bring his best if he prepared to get into a personal war with Galactus but we saw it was a last second desperate action which later paid off.
Originally posted by BlanketHe wasn't there to fight Galactus he was there to help him.
Except when he gave up. I mean, isn't that your reasoning that Thanos didn't lose to Odin? Because he didn't give up?
Gives up after one shot = one shot.
The point is we don't know what shielding he brought with him that day. It can obviously vary as we have instances of him SPECIFICALLY saying he was lucky he brought 3 shields with him. So.. obviously his shielding can vary and I'm sure depends on various factors. Whether he brought his best shields are didn't isn't relevant. Whatever shields he brought taxed Galactus. Period.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was stated he used all defensive shielding with him which ended up being enough. I have stated my reasoning and common sense once again backs me up. He did have enough shielding available to get the job done. Thanos didn't lose though. The competition wasn't against Galactus he was there to help him not make a terrible decision and ended up having to rectify Galactus' buffoonery. I would be an excellent coach but that's neither here nor there.Thanos doesn't always use powerful shielding like he used against Omega. He did have enough shielding access to tax Galactus. Imo he'd bring his best if he prepared to get into a personal war with Galactus but we saw it was a last second desperate action which later paid off.
He wasn't there to fight Galactus he was there to help him.
Except
"So you aren't just looking for a FIGHT against Galactus?"
"The last thing I desire is any confrontation with Galactus. But such a conflict may prove unavoidable. So I must know everything there is to know about my potential foe." Thanos acknowledging his unwillingness, but likelihood, in confronting Galactus, and preparing for such a confrontation.
and
"Galactus is by far the most dangerous opponent [i.e., >>>>> OMEGA] I have ever faced.
and,
"30 seconds before the main fuel storage ignites. Time enough to gather a replacement vessel AND GATHER THE DATA AND PROGRAMS I WILL NEED." The intensity of this affair reached OUTRIGHT HOSTILITY earlier than I anticipated."
which is, Thanos prepping for a fight against Galactus.
So, to recap:
Scan 1: Thanos acknowledges the highly unfavorable prospect of facing Galactus, and begins his prep.
Scan 2: Thanos states Galactus is by far his most dangerous opponent. This is after he gathers data and programs (i.e., shielding and other concerns 😱 ) for upcoming hostilities.
Yet of course, Thanos will under-prepare for a confrontation with his "most dangerous opponent" despite clearly prepping and bringing data and programs necessary for the inevitable hostilities because according to you...he wasn't ready. Despite him making those statements.
You don't enter into a championship game (in this instance, the universe is at stake) against the most dangerous team you've ever faced by going to the strip club the night before. You sure you'd be a good coach?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The point is we don't know what shielding he brought with him that day. It can obviously vary as we have instances of him SPECIFICALLY saying he was lucky he brought 3 shields with him. So.. obviously his shielding can vary and I'm sure depends on various factors. Whether he brought his best shields are didn't isn't relevant. Whatever shields he brought taxed Galactus. Period.
Obviously Thanos downgrades himself all the time. 🙄 That's a non-argument. What boggles me is neither of you consider that Thanos kept, or even upgraded his shields after you know...Omega nearly killed him, despite him being prepared. Or you can take the more baffling approach and say he removed the shields that barely protected him, and he nearly got killed again because he decided to take them out. Wait, that's actually your argument. So where is your proof that he took them out, because no where in the interim between abyss and the LS does it even remotely suggest he removed them. Quite the contrary, actually.
Also, with your statement above, you have no idea what we're discussing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos stated it and Genis' ca confirmed it. It took one blast to get through one shield to three shields it would logically take at least three blasts and would expend 3 times as much energy.Are you saying these statements by Genis were there to confuse the reader?
The fact that I'm challenging 1 shield vs. 3 shields isn't relevant to your insistence that the shields got taxed? Cool...find someone to argue that the shields didn't tax Galactus, cause that's not the issue at debate here.
I am not quoting you because I don't want that image up again. First things first the most dangerous opponent I have ever faced means he is more dangerous than Omega not more powerful. He also didn't intend to get into a confrontation or an all out war because he knew his chances.
can 1.He is preparing to try and talk it out with Galactus and knows the situation could get nasty but didn't implement a plan to take down Galactus in physical combat. The only reason he attacked was because Galactus wouldn't listen to him and it was his last option.
Scan 2.Ye, he has shielding available against him just not the best shielding we have ever seen him implement against Omega a character more powerful.
He wasn't ready for an all out battle. He was ready in case Galactus attacked him hence the shielding but his intentions weren't to defeat Galactus in battle like they were against Omega making the situation entirely different.
I suspect Thanos doesn't always have the same shielding available to him story to story. I also suspect Thanos and his intentions against Omega had to do with him tanking Omega's attacks while he didn't plan on tanking the brunt of a Galactus attack as part of the plan. he still had shielding that would save his life but his intentions weren't to defeat Galactus only to stop him from releasing the Hunger.
I am just pointing out it's ludicrous to assume the shielding he used against Galactus was equal to the shielding used against a far more powerful character he intended on taking on. I can't help it you want to ignore the evidence and the circumstances.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am not quoting you because I don't want that image up again. First things first the most dangerous opponent I have ever faced means he is more dangerous than Omega not more powerful. He also didn't intend to get into a confrontation or an all out war because he knew his chances.can 1.He is preparing to try and talk it out with Galactus and knows the situation could get nasty but didn't implement a plan to take down Galactus in physical combat. The only reason he attacked was because Galactus wouldn't listen to him and it was his last option.
Scan 2.Ye, he has shielding available against him just not the best shielding we have ever seen him implement against Omega a character more powerful.
He wasn't ready for an all out battle. He was ready in case Galactus attacked him hence the shielding but his intentions weren't to defeat Galactus in battle like they were against Omega making the situation entirely different.
I suspect Thanos doesn't always have the same shielding available to him story to story. I also suspect Thanos and his intentions against Omega had to do with him tanking Omega's attacks while he didn't plan on tanking the brunt of a Galactus attack as part of the plan. he still had shielding that would save his life but his intentions weren't to defeat Galactus only to stop him from releasing the Hunger.
I am just pointing out it's ludicrous to assume the shielding he used against Galactus was equal to the shielding used against a far more powerful character he intended on taking on. I can't help it you want to ignore the evidence and the circumstances.
I can't help that the scans contradict you so much that you don't even want to see them, as you literally just said.
I knew you would play "the most dangerous" card. I anticipated that. Who is likely to kill you first, a 5 year old carrying a shotgun or a skilled assassin with just a .45 pistol? Who has the more powerful gun? Who is the more dangerous? You bring a kevlar vest for the baby but you run up to the assassin bear chested? LOL.
Thanos didn't do anything to omega. His entire goal was last long enough to execute his plan. Don't bring up this "going to war" crap as he had spider-man as a critical piece along with 5 or 6 heavy hitters doing the majority of the fighting. Make no mistake, his entire plan was to survive long enough to reach the critical juncture.
Galactus is his most dangerous opponent, as he stated. He was prepping for a conflict with Galactus, as he stated. He was the ONLY one who could make Galactus see reason, as he stated. It's quite clear that he was preparing for OPEN HOSTILITIES, as the scan says, yet somehow you come up with this garbage
I also suspect Thanos and his intentions against Omega had to do with him tanking Omega's attacks while he didn't plan on tanking the brunt of a Galactus attack as part of the plan.
Your argument is non-existent. Since Thanos came to convince Galactus naturally what possible reason would Thanos have to even remotely imperil his life. By your argument you are saying he was prepared to beg for his life if needed. Thanos was prepared to beg. That is what you're arguing? No he prepares with what he has. He would want to stay alive in a conflict (which he stated, ON PANEL, that he anticipated and prepared for) as long as possible. He can't convince Galactus if he's dead. Yet you argue he wasn't prepared for Galactus being angry and just luckily escaped with his life.
"A pass almost intercepted is a pass almost intercepted" LOL. You're doing Thanos a real disservice. The guy who outmaneuvered Grandmaster doesn't prep his shields for Galactus? The guy who figured out the Magus' scheme doesn't prep for an nigh-inevitable encounter against Galactus? The guy who tricked the prince of lies, Mephisto, doesn't prepare for a confrontation that's staring him in the face? Etc. etc. etc.
The way you are arguing, you would think that the Thani-copter was just an incident of Thanos being unprepared for the NYPD.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIOmega had all kinds of problems Galactus didn't suffer from but power wasn't one of them.
I can't help that the scans contradict you so much that you don't even want to see them, as you literally just said.I knew you would play "the most dangerous" card. I anticipated that. Who is likely to kill you first, a 5 year old carrying a shotgun or a skilled assassin with just a .45 pistol? Who has the more powerful gun? Who is the more dangerous? You bring a kevlar vest for the baby but you run up to the assassin bear chested? LOL.
Thanos didn't do anything to omega. His entire goal was last long enough to execute his plan. Don't bring up this "going to war" crap as he had spider-man as a critical piece along with 5 or 6 heavy hitters doing the majority of the fighting. Make no mistake, his entire plan was to survive long enough to reach the critical juncture.
Galactus is his most dangerous opponent, as he stated. He was prepping for a conflict with Galactus, as he stated. He was the ONLY one who could make Galactus see reason, as he stated. It's quite clear that he was preparing for OPEN HOSTILITIES, as the scan says, yet somehow you come up with this garbage
Your argument is non-existent. Since Thanos came to convince Galactus naturally what possible reason would Thanos have to even remotely imperil his life. By your argument you are saying he was prepared to beg for his life if needed. Thanos was prepared to beg. That is what you're arguing? No he prepares with what he has. He would want to stay alive in a conflict (which he stated, ON PANEL, that he anticipated and prepared for) as long as possible. He can't convince Galactus if he's dead. Yet you argue he wasn't prepared for Galactus being angry and just luckily escaped with his life.
"A pass almost intercepted is a pass almost intercepted" LOL. You're doing Thanos a real disservice. The guy who outmaneuvered Grandmaster doesn't prep his shields for Galactus? The guy who figured out the Magus' scheme doesn't prep for an nigh-inevitable encounter against Galactus? The guy who tricked the prince of lies, Mephisto, doesn't prepare for a confrontation that's staring him in the face? Etc. etc. etc.
The way you are arguing, you would think that the Thani-copter was just an incident of Thanos being unprepared for the NYPD.
Uhm, he had a carefully orchestrated plan to take him down unlike his last second listen to me Galactus blast. He didn't plan on getting attacked by Galactus like he did in the Omega situation.
He wasn't preparing to take Galactus' attacks so it's an irrelevant comparison. Thanos also would need aid and his purpose was to stop Galactus because he foolishly released something which could consume all of reality. I can't make it any simpler and it's obvious you know I am right.
No, I am arguing Thanos acted out in desperation against Galactus when he blasted him as he wouldn't listen. Thanos couldn't beat Galactus in combat and Galactus relented. The shielding he used against Omega was much stronger imo and was for the sole purpose of withstanding a far more powerful character than Galactus.
Originally posted by h1a8
Galactus loses this one easily. Many of you assume that Galactus can do all of this stuff at once, when he can't. Hell, SS can avoid Galactus's blasts for awhile. Now if this is full powered Galactus then he wins. Because I believe that he equal to Eternity in power at that level.
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Originally posted by h1a8You don't read too many comics do you. Almost everything you type is the exact opposite of what occurs in comics.
Galactus loses this one easily. Many of you assume that Galactus can do all of this stuff at once, when he can't. Hell, SS can avoid Galactus's blasts for awhile. Now if this is full powered Galactus then he wins. Because I believe that he equal to Eternity in power at that level.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Omega had all kinds of problems Galactus didn't suffer from but power wasn't one of them.Uhm, he had a carefully orchestrated plan to take him down unlike his last second listen to me Galactus blast. He didn't plan on getting attacked by Galactus like he did in the Omega situation.
He wasn't preparing to take Galactus' attacks so it's an irrelevant comparison. Thanos also would need aid and his purpose was to stop Galactus because he foolishly released something which could consume all of reality. I can't make it any simpler and it's obvious you know I am right.
No, I am arguing Thanos acted out in desperation against Galactus when he blasted him as he wouldn't listen. Thanos couldn't beat Galactus in combat and Galactus relented. The shielding he used against Omega was much stronger imo and was for the sole purpose of withstanding a far more powerful character than Galactus.
The whole point is that Thanos needed to get Galactus to listen to reason. Galactus tried to KILL Thanos 2 issues prior for directly trying to intervene. Thanos WAS preparing to confront Galactus. How can he convince Galactus of the folly of his deeds if Galactus simply decides to ignore him and kill him outright? Which Galactus showed an intent to do on the astral plane? Or are you arguing that he stated he was prepared but didn't?
How do you explain the first scan, where he specifically mentions that he's prepping for a probably CONFRONTATION.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IINot for an all out battle like against Omega.
The whole point is that Thanos needed to get Galactus to listen to reason. Galactus tried to KILL Thanos 2 issues prior for directly trying to intervene. Thanos WAS preparing to confront Galactus. How can he convince Galactus of the folly of his deeds if Galactus simply decides to ignore him and kill him outright? Which Galactus showed an intent to do on the astral plane? Or are you arguing that he stated he was prepared but didn't?How do you explain the first scan, where he specifically mentions that he's prepping for a probably CONFRONTATION.
By reading the comic and knowing they were completely different scenarios.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not for an all out battle like against Omega.By reading the comic and knowing they were completely different scenarios.
"So you aren't just looking for a FIGHT against Galactus?"
"The last thing I desire is any confrontation with Galactus. But such a conflict may prove unavoidable. So I must know everything there is to know about my potential foe." Thanos acknowledging his unwillingness, but likelihood, in confronting Galactus, and preparing for such a confrontation.
He did more activity in the Galactus confrontation than he did against Omega. Galactus tried to kill thanos. Omega tried to kill thanos. Galactus is by far more dangerous than Omega. Thanos brings less shields against against Galactus, despite preparing on-panel? Deplorable misinterpretation of the context on your part.
My argument can now enter the phase where I just need to repeat myself and repost scans.
