FP Tyrant+Amped thanos+all heralds amped Vs Galactus

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How so

You are suggesting on one hand that Galactus can keep fighting Tyrant which is on Galactus own level continously for thousand of years (which I disagree on they did) without having a requirement to refill his energy storage during that entire battle. But on the other hand thinks that Galactus went from Well fed to Hungry breaking through Thanos shields. That logic makes, from my perspective, no sense at all.

Also to suggest that Tyrant wouldn't be Galactus first priority given their history and Galactus knowing that Tyrant is the only real threat he will face, is simply ignoring their history and the mindset of Galactus.

Originally posted by Utrigita
You are suggesting on one hand that Galactus can keep fighting Tyrant which is on Galactus own level continously for thousand of years (which I disagree on they did) without having a requirement to refill his energy storage during that entire battle. But on the other hand thinks that Galactus went from Well fed to Hungry breaking through Thanos shields. That logic makes, from my perspective, no sense at all.

Also to suggest that Tyrant wouldn't be Galactus first priority given their history and Galactus knowing that Tyrant is the only real threat he will face, is simply ignoring their history and the mindset of Galactus.

Okay well tell me then how the original battle between Tyrant and Galactus played out, since you don't believe that fought continuously for thousands of years. I don't believe it was a continuous battle as well. My point wasn't whether it was continuous or not, my point was that they are near equal. My point is that it took Galactus thousands of years, and we can say in that time, they had at least 100's of battles. Thus.. Tyrant isn't going anywhere fast agreed? Thus why would it make any sense for Galactus to attack Tyrant first and only Tyrant? So.. he would leave Thanos who has effected Galactus in the past and who's high end blast would certainly hurt Galactus especially if they were continuous while he was fighting Tyrant. The other heralds who I believe would be one-shotted easily should be taken out first… because again they can just fire and fire upon him while he's only focused on Tyrant. However, if he tries to fight the heralds and Thanos first….. to me that is another option but again… now he has tyrant unleashing on him while he's dealing with these two. We know it would drain Galactus just to break through Thanos shields let alone kill him… So you think that wouldn't make it easier for Tyrant to gain the upper hand? I'm really confused on why any of this doesn't make sense though.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay well tell me then how the original battle between Tyrant and Galactus played out, since you don't believe that fought continuously for thousands of years. I don't believe it was a continuous battle as well. My point wasn't whether it was continuous or not, my point was that they are near equal. My point is that it took Galactus thousands of years, and we can say in that time, they had at least 100's of battles. Thus.. Tyrant isn't going anywhere fast agreed? Thus why would it make any sense for Galactus to attack Tyrant first and only Tyrant? So.. he would leave Thanos who has effected Galactus in the past and who's high end blast would certainly hurt Galactus especially if they were continuous while he was fighting Tyrant. The other heralds who I believe would be one-shotted easily should be taken out first… because again they can just fire and fire upon him while he's only focused on Tyrant. However, if he tries to fight the heralds and Thanos first….. to me that is another option but again… now he has tyrant unleashing on him while he's dealing with these two. We know it would drain Galactus just to break through Thanos shields let alone kill him… So you think that wouldn't make it easier for Tyrant to gain the upper hand? I'm really confused on why any of this doesn't make sense though.

The only ones that fought Tyrant for a continuously amount of time was the sisterhood, Cosmic Power 6# made it quite clear that Galactus and Tyrant engaged in one battle and yes it is a hard one, but it was never suggested or hinted that Galactus and Tyrant's confrontation with each other, lasted Thousand of years. It's mentioned that Galactus confronted Tyrant and battled him and the battle ended with Galactus as the victorious and a depowered Tyrant. My argument was never that Tyrant would go down fast, I was merely perplexed if you was actually thinking that Galactus could keep fighting for Thousand years without require energy resupplying against Tyrant but taxed himself from Well fed to hungry (still arguable imo) going through Thanos shields.

Sorry but you think one of the parts is just going to let the other part run of when he is low on energy? What doesn't make any sense either, is you suggesting that Galactus will be focusing on the heralds first in the battle even though stating previously that such a move would be idiotic on his part. You then go on to state that Thanos blasts will manage to damage Galactus "He feels it" even though such a thing never occured on panel, you are also by that suggesting that Thanos that knows what energy will be unleashed when Tyrant and Galactus goes at it, will try and stay and do a difference, Thanos that knows that a planetary collision (with Nukes I know) and a Supernova can finish him off, isn't going to wait around when energy that is devastiting Galaxies as a sideeffect is being unleashed.

What didn't make any sense at all was this statement

funny because their original battle that lasted thousands of years..

Originally posted by Mindset
Lol.

Galactus does an omni-directional blast killing the heralds.

Then he grabs Thanos and beats him to death on Tyrant's face.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos rocks Galactus while the rest pile on while Tyrant beats on him. Team wins.

Originally posted by Mindset
How will Thanos rock anyone when he's a lifeless husk?

Thanos dies from the force of Tyant and Galactus fighting.

Originally posted by Mindset
Thanos dies from the force of Tyant and Galactus fighting.

This is just Galactus vs Tyrant, again.....

Originally posted by The Nuul
This is just Galactus vs Tyrant, again.....

Originally posted by quanchi112
How so? He didn't die when Galactus tried to destroy him so how is he going to die from the pact of his fight with someone else?

Originally posted by Mindset
Galactus+Tyrant energy > one blast from Galactus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm not debasing Thanos it's you who thinks his brilliant prep consists of blasting someone then saying don't let me go. It's hilarious you'd stoop this low just because you're upset Thanos' shielding available to him taxed a well nourished Galactus.

He didn't bring enough shielding to survive an onslaught or have an attack formulated to destroy Galactus. If you read the comic you'd know in one comic Omega was prepped for termination while Galactus wasn't. Simple.

I would say concession accepted, but your refusal to substantiate your position already betrayed your concession several pages back.

Dude, get this clear, it's YOU who insists "his brilliant prep consists of blasting someone then saying don't let me go." Who is arguing that he came prepared for this confrontation, you or me? Utterly laughable that you are confused as to the own feeble grounds which you've erected a shaky argument at best.

And again your implicit concession rears it's naked head again as this debate was on him using 1 shield vs. three, not whether they were taxed or not.

If you cared to read Infinity Abyss and the Thanos limited series instead of hyping up Thanos beyond the intent Starlin wrote, you'd recognize, through all my scans, that Thanos is quite aware of what Galactus can do to him. He's far more dangerous than Omega. You don't see Thanos admitting to Omega on the astral plane that he acts cautious around Omega.

You are debasing Thanos because you've just ignored all the scans I've put forth. You ignored the scan I JUST posted. In which Thanos admits that he is so cautious concerning Galactus, that he tries to avoid physical proximity. Yet you're the one who insists

his brilliant prep consists of blasting someone then saying don't let me go.

And I agree, you don't have to take this debate any further. In fact, you shouldn't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But it isn't concentrated energy.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
I would say concession accepted, but your refusal to substantiate your position already betrayed your concession several pages back.

Dude, get this clear, it's YOU who insists "his brilliant prep consists of blasting someone then saying don't let me go." Who is arguing that he came prepared for this confrontation, you or me? Utterly laughable that you are confused as to the own feeble grounds which you've erected a shaky argument at best.

And again your implicit concession rears it's naked head again as this debate was on him using 1 shield vs. three, not whether they were taxed or not.

If you cared to read Infinity Abyss and the Thanos limited series instead of hyping up Thanos beyond the intent Starlin wrote, you'd recognize, through all my scans, that Thanos is quite aware of what Galactus can do to him. He's far more dangerous than Omega. You don't see Thanos admitting to Omega on the astral plane that he acts cautious around Omega.

You are debasing Thanos because you've just ignored all the scans I've put forth. You ignored the scan I JUST posted. In which Thanos admits that he is so cautious concerning Galactus, that he tries to avoid physical proximity. Yet you're the one who insists

And I agree, you don't have to take this debate any further. In fact, you shouldn't.

If you think Thanos' prep to defeat a character consists of blasting and then asking someone to stop you don't read enough Thanos. Point blank.

Thanos knows what Galactus can do which means he was desperate when he engaged him physically. He knew at this point he needed to do something and that he couldn't defeat Galactus and hadn't prepped to do so. he wasn't caught without shielding but hadn't orchestrated a plan to defeat Galactus like he did against Omega.

Again, Thanos had a lot of help, an armada to defeat the slower Omega. Thanos couldn't have defeated Omega under his power alone. If you read it you didn't understand either arc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you basically acted as if Thanos had the same intentions against both characters when they couldn't be any more different.

If you think Thanos' prep to defeat a character consists of blasting and then asking someone to stop you don't read enough Thanos. Point blank.

Thanos knows what Galactus can do which means he was desperate when he engaged him physically. He knew at this point he needed to do something and that he couldn't defeat Galactus and hadn't prepped to do so. he wasn't caught without shielding but hadn't orchestrated a plan to defeat Galactus like he did against Omega.

Again, Thanos had a lot of help, an armada to defeat the slower Omega. Thanos couldn't have defeated Omega under his power alone. If you read it you didn't understand either arc.

Thanos knows he can't defeat Galactus in battle. All the scans in this 1-sided debate have been posted by me and all the scans have clearly indicated that fact, so we won't discuss it further. He prepped, to the best of his ability, to SURVIVE the encounter and present his case.

I know you haven't read either arc as the entire groundless premise of your argument was Thanos prepping to defeat Omega vs. Thanos not prepping to defeat Galactus. You have no conception of my argument otherwise you wouldn't have made this statement which betrays how you didn't comprehend any of the points I made

No, you basically acted as if Thanos had the same intentions against both characters when they couldn't be any more different.

Just to help you understand even more:

1. As soon as Galactus took the soul gem, Thanos knew a confrontation was likely. His ultimate goal was in preventing hunger's release

2. He prepped for the confrontation as the scan clearly illustrated (as you back-peddle with your earlier statement of how he used the shields he had available at the time, and now say he wasn't caught off-guard without his shields. Don't think I didn't catch that).

3. Your whole argument of Thanos not wanting to take Galactus down has no relevance. Any plan involving taking Galactus down would involve offensive strategems. Don't misinterpret Starlin's work as saying Thanos had no reason to be prepared for a confrontation with Galactus. That's your entire position and thus your comparison between wanting to destroy Omega and wanting to reason with Galactus are irrelevant. That's only relevant if Thanos is in a position of power to control the choice between destruction and discussion. On the contrary such leverage is with Galactus, and NOT Thanos (Galactus stayed his hand, Galactus decided to listen, Galactus went from threatening to kill Thanos to dropping him aside like a small toy).

Your whole argument is Thanos prepared to tank a blast from Omega, but Thanos consciously and purposefully didn't prepare to tank a blast from Galactus, which I have contradicted through the presentation of 3 separate starlin-scripted scans. And your validation for this argument is that "Thanos didn't prepare to destroy Galactus." This has nothing to do with Thanos preparing to destroy Galactus in a straight up confrontation. He can't. He already admitted that. This is about Thanos preparing to ensure Galactus doesn't destroy him before Thanos can speak his piece. Why else would Thanos beg? If you read the comic you would understand the answer to that question.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Okay well tell me then how the original battle between Tyrant and Galactus played out, since you don't believe that fought continuously for thousands of years. I don't believe it was a continuous battle as well. My point wasn't whether it was continuous or not, my point was that they are near equal. My point is that it took Galactus thousands of years, and we can say in that time, they had at least 100's of battles. Thus.. Tyrant isn't going anywhere fast agreed? Thus why would it make any sense for Galactus to attack Tyrant first and only Tyrant? So.. he would leave Thanos who has effected Galactus in the past and who's high end blast would certainly hurt Galactus especially if they were continuous while he was fighting Tyrant. The other heralds who I believe would be one-shotted easily should be taken out first… because again they can just fire and fire upon him while he's only focused on Tyrant. However, if he tries to fight the heralds and Thanos first….. to me that is another option but again… now he has tyrant unleashing on him while he's dealing with these two. We know it would drain Galactus just to break through Thanos shields let alone kill him… So you think that wouldn't make it easier for Tyrant to gain the upper hand? I'm really confused on why any of this doesn't make sense though.

It didn't take Galactus "thousands of years." Where are you getting this falsehood from? The last person I saw perpetrating this misrepresentation was nvr. Did you get this from him?

It took the spinsters centuries to drive out de-powered Tyrant from the galaxy. This is all explained in SS #82 and expanded on in Cosmic powers #6. Galactus de-powered Tyrant and from there the spinsters waged war against DP tyrant for centuries. Galactus engaged in 1 battle with FP Tyrant. Hardly "thousands of years."

I suggest you read up on the issues in question. That will clear away any other misconceptions you may have.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Thanos knows he can't defeat Galactus in battle. All the scans in this 1-sided debate have been posted by me and all the scans have clearly indicated that fact, so we won't discuss it further. He prepped, to the best of his ability, to SURVIVE the encounter and present his case.

I know you haven't read either arc as the entire groundless premise of your argument was Thanos prepping to defeat Omega vs. Thanos not prepping to defeat Galactus. You have no conception of my argument otherwise you wouldn't have made this statement which betrays how you didn't comprehend any of the points I made

Just to help you understand even more:

1. As soon as Galactus took the soul gem, Thanos knew a confrontation was likely. His ultimate goal was in preventing hunger's release

2. He prepped for the confrontation as the scan clearly illustrated (as you back-peddle with your earlier statement of how he used the shields he had available at the time, and now say he wasn't caught off-guard without his shields. Don't think I didn't catch that).

3. Your whole argument of Thanos not wanting to take Galactus down has no relevance. Any plan involving taking Galactus down would involve offensive strategems. Don't misinterpret Starlin's work as saying Thanos had no reason to be prepared for a confrontation with Galactus. That's your entire position and thus your comparison between wanting to destroy Omega and wanting to reason with Galactus are irrelevant. That's only relevant if Thanos is in a position of power to control the choice between destruction and discussion. [b]On the contrary such leverage is with Galactus, and NOT Thanos (Galactus stayed his hand, Galactus decided to listen, Galactus went from threatening to kill Thanos to dropping him aside like a small toy).

Your whole argument is Thanos prepared to tank a blast from Omega, but Thanos consciously and purposefully didn't prepare to tank a blast from Galactus, which I have contradicted through the presentation of 3 separate starlin-scripted scans. And your validation for this argument is that "Thanos didn't prepare to destroy Galactus." This has nothing to do with Thanos preparing to destroy Galactus in a straight up confrontation. He can't. He already admitted that. This is about Thanos preparing to ensure Galactus doesn't destroy him before Thanos can speak his piece. Why else would Thanos beg? If you read the comic you would understand the answer to that question. [/B]

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Thanos knows he can't defeat Galactus in battle. All the scans in this 1-sided debate have been posted by me and all the scans have clearly indicated that fact, so we won't discuss it further. He prepped, to the best of his ability, to SURVIVE the encounter and present his case.

I know you haven't read either arc as the entire groundless premise of your argument was Thanos prepping to defeat Omega vs. Thanos not prepping to defeat Galactus. You have no conception of my argument otherwise you wouldn't have made this statement which betrays how you didn't comprehend any of the points I made

.

Just to help you understand even more:

1. As soon as Galactus took the soul gem, Thanos knew a confrontation was likely. His ultimate goal was in preventing hunger's release

2. He prepped for the confrontation as the scan clearly illustrated (as you back-peddle with your earlier statement of how he used the shields he had available at the time, and now say he wasn't caught off-guard without his shields. Don't think I didn't catch that).

3. Your whole argument of Thanos not wanting to take Galactus down has no relevance. Any plan involving taking Galactus down would involve offensive strategems. Don't misinterpret Starlin's work as saying Thanos had no reason to be prepared for a confrontation with Galactus. That's your entire position and thus your comparison between wanting to destroy Omega and wanting to reason with Galactus are irrelevant. That's only relevant if Thanos is in a position of power to control the choice between destruction and discussion. [b]On the contrary such leverage is with Galactus, and NOT Thanos (Galactus stayed his hand, Galactus decided to listen, Galactus went from threatening to kill Thanos to dropping him aside like a small toy).

Your whole argument is Thanos prepared to tank a blast from Omega, but Thanos consciously and purposefully didn't prepare to tank a blast from Galactus, which I have contradicted through the presentation of 3 separate starlin-scripted scans. And your validation for this argument is that "Thanos didn't prepare to destroy Galactus." This has nothing to do with Thanos preparing to destroy Galactus in a straight up confrontation. He can't. He already admitted that. This is about Thanos preparing to ensure Galactus doesn't destroy him before Thanos can speak his piece. Why else would Thanos beg? If you read the comic you would understand the answer to that question. [/B]

You are correct when you state he was only there to present his case because he hadn't the time nor the resources at hand to do so. Galactus wasn't the real problem to begin with anyways.

Here, he describes what resources he had available to him as meager.

I put up the definition of meager because it's clear you don't understand simple words and situations.

deficient in amount or quality or extent; "meager resources"

I guess iyo Thanos and Pip equals Thanos at his absolute best and not him using whatever resources are avaliable at him at the time to rectify a very dire situation.
1.Yes, that is all true but what you failed to put out is after the scans you falsely represented how quickly Thanos needed to act after Galactus' abduction of the soul gem took place. Did you think I wasn't aware or you were you hoping to continue to misrepresent the situation?

2.Again, he prepared with what available options he had present for him. He described them as meager. They weren't ideal and I have said this from the start and I laughed when you continued to post scans and take the entire situation out of context.

3.Thanos was prepared as he could be in the timeframe he had available to him which wasn't ideal but like Thanos does when he has to. Thanos comes through and he survived their encounter which he intended to.

You see Omega and Galactus are too different beasts if you will. Omega has more raw power while being very slow to act whereas Galactus doesn't suffer from this problem and also has vast intelligence which also seemed to be missing from Omega.

Thanos always makes the best of a bad situation but the circumstances against Omega were more ideal than against Galactus. He took the ball and went with it so to speak against Galactus but his goals like you yourself agree had nothing to do with eliminating Galactus.

Let's took a look at something shall we and just compare both beings of power here.

Let's compare Thanos' blast and the effect it had on Galactus and the blast on Omega and the effect it had on Omega.

One being gets rocked back a considerable distance while the other fails to even budge. Ok, so we know Omega is more powerful than Galactus to it's a slap in the fact to suggest his shielding is greater than the three shields he uses against Omega.

Against Galacus he states, "All defensive shielding." This to me suggests a powerful forceshield but in no way, shape, or form suggests something greater to or equal to the three shields he uses against Omega who the writer established as far more powerful than Galactus.

Your points aren't points they only show you cannot grasp simple storytelling and are trying to put Galactus on the pedestal you are used to seeing him on. Add in the fact Galactus calls it, "A mere forcefield." There is no way you can state it's equal to a being who far surpasses him in power.

Your argument fell apart a long time ago.

Originally posted by The Nuul
This is just Galactus vs Tyrant, again.....