Kratos, Link, Ganondorf, Dante vs War, Kain, LK and Bayonetta

Started by Burning thought28 pages
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
You can't see through the skull, only the flames on it. It's like setting me on fire and try to see through me. If I move enough, though, you can see through the flames that stretch to the sky on top of my head.

Wrong, you can see through his ethereal/spiritual head at 2:10.

And most of his face are made up of said flames.

Also whatever happened to dorf, no matter what assumption someone attempts to use. He did it in the form of this disembodied, flaming head, theres no evidence to suggest any of his others forms could have survived it, not the beast Ganon form or his typical dorf form.

You're the one claiming
1. Ganon isn't physical, despite having no evidence of this
2. Nintendo for some reason decided to have her attack someone she couldn't hit? No.

The intention of the cutscene is very clear.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're the one claiming
1. Ganon isn't physical, despite having no evidence of this
2. Nintendo for some reason decided to have her attack someone she couldn't hit? No.

The intention of the cutscene is very clear.

1. I have a vid showing hes fiery and see through, your assertion now seems to be that fire and spirit is affected by physical force, prove it.

2. Assertion, prove it, they made her fight someone she couldnt beat.

Yes it is, Ganon>fused shadows. Its also clear that we dont see the attack hit his non physical form.

1. I have a vid showing hes fiery and see through, your assertion now seems to be that fire and spirit is affected by physical force, prove it.

You're the only one claiming he's transparent. No one else seems to have your x-ray vision.
2. Assertion, prove it, they made her fight someone she couldnt beat.
Which happens often in fiction, but characters in fiction don't stab things their sword will pass through.
Its also clear that we dont see the attack hit his non physical form.
Cop-out.
The camera pans out so we can survey the destruction. You're assuming Midna somehow missed despite the clear intention of the cutscene being that she didn't, specificly to try and defend your stance.

Bias. Ganon is far too durable for Kain to do squat.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're the only one claiming he's transparent. No one else seems to have your x-ray vision.
Which happens often in fiction, but characters in fiction don't stab things their sword will pass through.
Cop-out.
The camera pans out so we can survey the destruction. You're assuming Midna somehow missed despite the clear intention of the cutscene being that she didn't, specificly to try and defend your stance.

Bias. Ganon is far too durable for Kain to do squat.

1. No I am not, its clear that ganons head is not physical because its see through in places and is made of smoke and fire.

2. Youve yet to prove your assertion, your now creating another assertion on top of it, the assumption Midna is omnicient.

Sorry but we dont see it happen, you assumption or opinion on the scene does not make feats or fact, sowwy 🙁

Yet another assertion.

1. No I am not, its clear that ganons head is not physical because its see through in places and is made of smoke and fire.

You are the only one claiming this.
2. Youve yet to prove your assertion, your now creating another assertion on top of it, the assumption Midna is omnicient.

Strawman. Characters in fiction don't attack things they can't hit unless it's to show that they cannot hit them. This didn't happen.

Proven. You'll nitpick this forever because you're a troll though.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You are the only one claiming this.

Strawman. Characters in fiction don't attack things they can't hit unless it's to show that they cannot hit them. This didn't happen.

Proven. You'll nitpick this forever because you're a troll though.

me and the video.

lol yet another assertion. Prove it.

Count: at least 5 assertions

me and the video.
Can I borrow your x ray glasses?

lol yet another assertion. Prove it.

You prove any of yours yet? No?

It's one of the main devices of any fiction where the characters are used to pass knowledge to the player. Course someone who can't spell "they're" wouldn't know much about fiction or reading. 😘

Additionally! Common sense. Characters in fiction aren't retarded, and Midna wouldn't swing at something she can't hit. She'd know better than you.

Count: at least 5 assertions

Troll.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Can I borrow your x ray glasses?

You prove any of yours yet? No?

It's one of the main devices of any fiction where the characters are used to pass knowledge to the player. Course someone who can't spell "they're" wouldn't know much about fiction or reading. 😘

Additionally! Common sense. Characters in fiction aren't retarded, and Midna wouldn't swing at something she can't hit. She'd know better than you.

Troll.

Ad hominem failure of debating logic and more assertions, prove them?

Asking you to prove your assertions is not trolling, infact its quite integral to an argument.

Re-count based on 3/4 pages of this thread on this subject: 21 unproven assertions.

Ad hominem failure of debating logic and more assertions, prove them?
You're the only one who can see through Ganon. You're obliged to prove your claim he's spiritual.
Asking you to prove your assertions is not trolling, infact its quite integral to an argument.

Re-count based on 3/4 pages of this thread on this subject: 21 unproven assertions.

In your case it's both hypocritical and ironic. Especially given that I actually provide evidence. Then you ignore it. Then we go around in circles some more. You make claims, don't prove them, I disprove them, you ask for evidence, I provide, you ignore.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're the only one who can see through Ganon. You're obliged to prove you're claim he's spiritual.
In your case it's both hypocritical and ironic. Especially given that I actually provide evidence. Then you ignore it. Then we go around in circles some more. You make claims, don't prove them, I disprove them, you ask for evidence, I provide, you ignore.

my proof is the video. Whats your proof hes physical? also this is a huge red herring, but nice try.

Count: 26 assertions

my proof is the video. Whats your proof hes physical? also this is a huge red herring, but nice try.
No one else who watches the video sees what you see.
I can watch a video of Dr. Octagonapus and claim it shows Ganon busting the world effortlessly, doesn't make it true. IE; you claim it's in the video, no one else sees it. You have to prove your claim.

Count: 23 assertions ignoring trolling.

It'd be pretty neat if you could list those. Also, irony.
You assert I made 23 unproven assertions, prove that. See? We can both play your game.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No one else who watches the video sees what you see.
I can watch a video of Dr. Octagonapus and claim it shows Ganon busting the world effortlessly, doesn't make it true. IE; you claim it's in the video, no one else sees it. You have to prove your claim.

It'd be pretty neat if you could list those. Also, irony.
You assert I made 23 unproven assertions, prove that. See? We can both play your game.

Strawman, maybe I should start a fallacy count, roughply 2 ad hominems, a straw man and a red herring in a couple of pages, alongside your assertions which gain another:

Count 27

I will, I can but I wont, not yet. I want to see how many you make.

Strawman, maybe I should start a fallacy count, roughply 2 ad hominems, sraw man and a red herring in a couple of pages, alongside your assertions which gain another:

Count 27

I will, I can but I wont, not yet. I want to see how many you make.


Actually it was a great example.

Go on counting imagined fallacies then, you've made no argument in a couple posts now.

You assert that I made unproven assertions burden of proof is on you to prove your assertion that my assertions are unproven.

Until then: The obvious is Ganon destroys Kain.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually it was a great example.

Go on counting imagined fallacies then, you've made no argument in a couple posts now.

You assert that I made unproven assertions burden of proof is on you to prove your assertion that my assertions are unproven.

Until then: The obvious is Ganon destroys Kain.

Technically neither have you, youve made assertions.

Another assertion.

Count: 28

You'll find nearly everything said in this thread proves that one, except for the points that don't relate to Ganondorf.

Count: 28
Prove it?
Technically neither have you, youve made assertions.
Prove it?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You'll find nearly everything said in this thread proves that one
Prove it?
Prove it?

Count 29.

Do you not read posts? I said I will, but not yet 😉

But anyway I am letting you spam me now, I will wait until you have an argument. Since afterall how will I argue against someone who does not have a proven and valid argument relevant to my own assertions?

Count 29.
Directing you to the thread is an assertion, now too? Proof of that?

Saying and doing are seperate things. 😉

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Saying and doing are seperate things. 😉

They are indeed, is that the first true thing youve said so far?

I think its time to lock this thread.