Kratos, Link, Ganondorf, Dante vs War, Kain, LK and Bayonetta

Originally posted by Burning thought
They are indeed, is that the first true thing youve said so far?

Edit: Can you prove that's the first true thing I've said?

Prove? I asked you a question, not a claim.

Can you prove it was actually a question, and not a sarcastic remark?

I can actually:

Originally posted by Burning thought
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Touche.

Now, can you prove the question was not /also/ a sarcastic remark?

No I cannot.

I demand that BT cease his assertion count on the grounds that it is baiting, much like my childish count apparently was.

Assersions are not baiting, if assertions are not proven then the argument is pointless.

Well, if we're just going to be stupid about the whole idea then you calling everyone else childish was not me baiting you.

But if we want to be intelligent and actually read the post then you would have to agree that an assertion count would be baiting based on the fact that my childish count was baiting.

Not really, listing a list of someones assertions can be important for a thread.

Counting how many times I said childish was not, I think you even openly admitted it was trolling.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Not really, listing a list of someones assertions can be important for a thread.

Counting how many times I said childish was not, I think you even openly admitted it was trolling.

Well when you list them all as opposed to counting them let me know. Apparently you've got a list of 29 items to write up. Get crackin'.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well when you list them all as opposed to counting them let me know. Apparently you've got a list of 29 items to write up. Get crackin'.

I was doing them as he made the assertion:

Screampastes list of unproven assertions over the last few pages.

Assertion 1+2:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. Ganon can react to Link's sword slashes pretty well, and 2. it's the speed of thought.

3-5

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
3. He's not even fast enough to land an attack on Ganon anyway. 4. Kain's slow ass is 5. well within Ganon's reaction time.

6.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He can keep up with Link in a sword fight. 6. That puts him well above having to wait half a second to register.

7-10

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Link can swing his sword 585 degrees in 0.1. 7. Ganon can compete with this, 8. and react to it, 9. parrying the majority of Link's sword blows.

10. He's no slouch. Stop trying to insinuate he is.

11-12

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon blocks Link's attack. Link attacks quickly. Ganon reacts quickly.

^Common sense.

11. Now, Kain can't even damage Ganon. See Midna blowing up a castle and failign to achieve anything. How will Kain cut him in half, as you claim?

Note also, even if he did, Ganon has shrugged of should-be-lethal damage before.

12. Ganon > Kain.

13:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
13. The reaver's not powerful enough.

14:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
14. The master sword is a more powerful weapon than the reaver, and it doesn't kill Ganon when it pierces his brain.

15-19

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
15. Furthermore, there's no reason for the attack to happen if she can't hit him. 16 .I think Midna knows better than you do, BT. Also, what happened the castle is not null, 17. it exploded from the force.

How about 18. negating Ganon's island busting power? 19. The reaver has nothing on that.

20:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

2. Nintendo for some reason decided to have her attack someone she couldn't hit?20. No.

21:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

21. Which happens often in fiction, but characters in fiction don't stab things their sword will pass through.

22-26

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
22. In your case it's both hypocritical and ironic. 23. Especially given that I actually provide evidence. 24. Then you ignore it. Then we go around in circles some more. You make claims, 25. don't prove them, 26. I disprove them, you ask for evidence, I provide, you ignore.

27:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No one else who watches the video sees what you see.

28:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
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Until then: The obvious is Ganon destroys Kain.

29:

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You'll find nearly everything said in this thread proves that one

So....Screampaste has a huge amount to prove, go and prove it or quote each piece of evidence for each assertion. Get cracking 😉

Tell me when your done and we may be able to form a debate on how Ganon will be useful to Team 1.

haermm Good job ignoring the proof in the posts themselves.
For example:

1. Ganon can react to Link's sword slashes pretty well, and 2. it's the speed of thought.

These aren't assertions, they're facts.

Ganon blocks Link's attack. Link attacks quickly. Ganon reacts quickly.

^Common sense.

Oh look, you listed this one again. I reworded it, and it's another assertion.

Play TP, or WW.

No one else who watches the video sees what you see.

22. In your case it's both hypocritical and ironic. 23. Especially given that I actually provide evidence. 24. Then you ignore it. Then we go around in circles some more. You make claims, 25. don't prove them, 26. I disprove them, you ask for evidence, I provide, you ignore.

You done? If that's all you have I'm afraid I win.

Also, Ganon > Kain. Ganon's shown speed and reactin time above Kain, not to mention being on a power cale wholly seperate from Kain's modest self.

You think thats "proving" evidence? just stating in what games they happen?

I will wait until you actually prove these assertions properly.

You think thats "proving" evidence? just stating in what games they happen?

I will wait until you actually prove these assertions properly.

Compare this with when I ask you when Ganon's shown to be as weak as you claim, and you have nothing.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If it happens in the game, it happens in the game. There's no arguing with it.

Compare this with when I ask you when Ganon's shown to be as weak as you claim, and you have nothing.

I can just say the same as you, "play a Zelda game", in them you see him weak!

I can reverse that and say you cannot prove Kain cannot bust a universe with a thought.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I can just say the same as you, "play a Zelda game", in them you see him weak!

I can reverse that and say you cannot prove Kain cannot bust a universe with a thought.

The difference is: My claim is true, and having played Zelda I can tell you so. I have the ability to tell you in Zelda Ganon is never weak, and I can so so factually, because I have played the game.

The difference is, your statement is a lie. Mine is true.

I legit can't believe I'm about to argue about this. This tops the friction stuff in regards to absolute ridiculousness. You should start a list for me. I already made 2. Actually that would be three as the assertion I made two is a third. And that one was a fourth. Fifth...sixth...whatever.

1. Wind Waker, final fight scene. If I recall, Link attacks, Ganon blocks and counter attacks. Link moves to parry, to which Ganon spins and Link somehow flipps high into the air using the sword. Then he stabs the MS into his face turning Ganon to stone.

2. I'd have to see what was the speed of thought. If it's TK, then yeah, I would think so.

3 - 5. Ganon reacts to Link.

6. You've seen Link's spin attack, right?

7 - 10. You've seen Link's spin attack, right?

11. You've seen Midna blow up the castle by hitting Ganon, right?

12. You've seen all of Ganon's feats, right?

13. You've seen Ganon take a beating from Link, bring down his castle on himself, then take another beating and finally be defeated but still not die by having the Master Sword shoved into his brain, right?

14. You've read number 13, right?

15. You haven't played the game, right?

16. You can read ScreamPaste's mind, right? You've also read number 11, right?

17. Castle's don't blow up at random, right?

18. You've agreed Ganon has that kind of power before, right?

19. You haven't shown it topping that, right?

20. You've ignored and used logic arbitrarily when it best suited you, right?

21. I can't prove this, but castle's don't explode when other characters might swing at something intangible, right?

22. You don't believe this, right?

23. You've seen all the vids and statements, right?

24. This is what we're doing right now, right?

25. I haven't seen you post any vids or stuff yet, right?

26. You read number 24, right?

27. Technicalities are cool, but you take away different things from the videos, right?

28. You've read this post now, right?

29. You've read this thread now, right?

Moo assertion # 8...now 9...now 10...**** it, I'll just say it: this post is a perfect example of taking (a) joke(s) too far.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The difference is: My claim is true, and having played Zelda I can tell you so. I have the ability to tell you in Zelda Ganon is never weak, and I can so so factually, because I have played the game.

The difference is, your statement is a lie. Mine is true.

You can say what you like, it doesnt count as proof. "sigh" apprently your word is canon evidence in a thread haermm

Not according to your logic, I have played the LoK series, I have the ability to tell you Kain is invulnerable to harm and can bust dimensions and galaxies with a whisper because I have played the games!

But no, seriously your just trying to dodge providing evidence in the threads you enter.

Now go and provide evidence for your assertions.

I'll just say it: this post is a perfect example of taking (a) joke(s) too far.