Kratos, Link, Ganondorf, Dante vs War, Kain, LK and Bayonetta

Originally posted by iChaos
Whoever said I was arguing 😆?

yes I didnt think so, go and troll somewhere else plz?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I lol'd. Kain especially would be screwed if he attempted this. Link can react to Zant's teleportation, which occurs quicker than Kain's. If Kain attempts this, he's eatign a mortal draw, and out of the fight.

Not really, Zants teleportion? show me......Zants not quick, Kain can hit a guy within about 200 milliseconds which is quicker than the time it takes for someone to even realise something is going on, let alone react to it.

If Kain broke off from beating Ganon into the ground like an old carpet and decided to kill the annoying little urchin launching light arrows at the LK he could turn around before Link even realised what was going on and in a flash assuming Link even noticed Kains eyes on him in the first place would be standing with the reaver in Links head. Links not got precog....

yes because Kains not had his chest torn out along with his heart and survived...oh w8!

Not really, Zants teleportion? show me......Zants not quick, Kain can hit a guy within about 200 milliseconds which is quicker than the time it takes for someone to even realise something is going on, let alone react to it.

If Kain broke off from beating Ganon into the ground like an old carpet and decided to kill the annoying little urchin launching light arrows at the LK he could turn around before Link even realised what was going on and in a flash assuming Link even noticed Kains eyes on him in the first place would be standing with the reaver in Links head. Links not got precog....

.250 milliseconds is /average human/ reaction time. .200 is pie for Link, far less than it takes to even cut arrows out of the air. (Which Link does in TP.)

As for Kain beating Ganon, I lol'd. Like I said, I'd need extra hands to keep uo with your Kain wank. Ganon would one shot Kain. 😐

yes because Kains not had his chest torn out along with his heart and survived...oh w8!

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes because Kains not had his chest torn out along with his heart and survived...oh w8!

...by Raziel who he was too weak and slow to beat.

Dante could just teleport in and kill Kain.

Anyone on team 1 would hand Kain his ass, to be blunt, it'd just be especially foolish of him to actually hand himself to one of them.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
.250 milliseconds is /average human/ reaction time. .200 is pie for Link, far less than it takes to even cut arrows out of the air. (Which Link does in TP.)

As for Kain beating Ganon, I lol'd. Like I said, I'd need extra hands to keep uo with your Kain wank. Ganon would one shot Kain. 😐

Ever had his head removed, and his torso neatly bisected? Even if he "survives" he's incapacitated.

Show me this average, I thought that was the average time for a human to "percieve" the object he was reacting to, not actually reacting to it. Also prove this "cutting arrows" out of the air feat, not to mension the speed the arrows move. Its also important to note if Link did it off hand without actually having any idea this could happen.

Nah, Ganons not that strong, even with "infinite" power some old men and knights sealed him up. Not that Ganon has any good feats, thing is Kain would one shot Ganon.

Assuming Link could even cut Kain mortal draw does not do that. It just looked like a slash to me, and not really, mist form ftw.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
...by Raziel who he was too weak and slow to beat.

After being slashed by the reaver and weakened in a fight before the scene. Kains shown to be more than adequate speed to stop Raziel. PIS mostly tbh.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Dante could just teleport in and kill Kain.

When has Dante teleported further than a few meters though? I didnt think Dante even had a propper teleport, I dont ever remember using one, only trickster?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Anyone on team 1 would hand Kain his ass, to be blunt, it'd just be especially foolish of him to actually hand himself to one of them.

Not really, as I said, time slow/blood shower= Team 1 dead. Drop in a repel shield and Kain gets magic immunity and at least one strikes worth of physical resistane from one of them. Techincally anyone on Team 2 could one shot most from Team 1 as well.

Nah, Ganons not that strong, even with "infinite" power some old men and knights sealed him up. Not that Ganon has any good feats, thing is Kain would one shot Ganon.

Assuming Link could even cut Kain mortal draw does not do that. It just looked like a slash to me, and not really, mist form ftw.
p/quote] Lol, assuming? Here's your problem. Link is asinine strong, the slash is unexpected, and outside of Kain's reaction time. Kain can't mist in time, he's too busy being terribly wrong about Link being a viable target.

[quote]When has Dante teleported further than a few meters though? I didnt think Dante even had a propper teleport, I dont ever remember using one, only trickster?

Not really, as I said, time slow/blood shower= Team 1 dead. Drop in a repel shield and Kain gets magic immunity and at least one strikes worth of physical resistane from one of them. Techincally anyone on Team 2 could one shot most from Team 1 as well.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is crap.

As much as you say how Dante is too fast for Link to react to, who actually /does/ have reaction feats, here's where I stab you with your own sword. You cannot possibly think that Kain can react to Dante if you believe that Link cannot.

Maybe to your version of Ganon but the canon verson, this happened.

Kain does not have to react to Dante, hes not reacting to anything with the tactics I just outlined....but no, your right since neither Kain or link can react to Dante. Not a lot of people can apart from Bayonetta.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Blood shower's never worked on a durable being, repel shield is sad, and has only deflectewd minor bolts in gameplay, and Kain is the slowest and most frail character in this thread.

Durability is not a factor silly, thats like saying Links sword has not worked on anyone with a sexy earring like Kain....Repel shield works fine, it reflects spells which is its canon purpose so complaining is not going to help.

I lold, Kain is quicker than the majority with only the real speedsters beating him. His also probably the most durable here by far, and the more "endurant" since he can take daft punishment or mist to escape physical damage altogether.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Show me this average, I thought that was the average time for a human to "percieve" the object he was reacting to, not actually reacting to it. Also prove this "cutting arrows" out of the air feat, not to mension the speed the arrows move. Its also important to note if Link did it off hand without actually having any idea this could happen.

Watch Mythbusters.

Kain does not have to react to Dante, hes not reacting to anything with the tactics I just outlined....but no, your right since neither Kain or link can react to Dante. Not a lot of people can apart from Bayonetta.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Unfortunately for you, this means that Kain doesn't get to decide how or when Dante decapitates him.

It just means that his actions counter Dantes before Dante decides to attack him whether through time slowing or mist forming. Or kill Dante outright with bloodshower/soul disruption.

Dante is the most dangerous foe for Team 2 for sure.

Trickster is based on 'Disappear in the blink of an eye' moves. So the more he puts into it the further he could of, 'sides Dantes the fastest one here. QS beats Reaver time power.

Ganondorf's death curse was actually Gohma. Meaning he killed the Deku Tree by summoning a giant spider inside him. He did similar to Jabu-Jabu, by summoning a giant electric jellyfish into his innards. This is before he acquired the Triforce of Power, mind. Also, he brought the dodnogos back to life, since they were an extinct species as of OoT.

He is also able to banish someone to the gap between dimensions if he wants to. Or send someone into the Dark World, where they transform to reflect their true natures. Alternatively, he could just break the continent.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Trickster is based on 'Disappear in the blink of an eye' moves. So the more he puts into it the further he could of, 'sides Dantes the fastest one here. QS beats Reaver time power.

So its not an actual teleport, its speed hence why he could not teleport near Kain unless Kain was very close.

Not really, they do pretty much the same thing.....only Kain has an actual teleport so he can put his aura anywhere on the battlefield.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Ganondorf's death curse was actually Gohma. Meaning he killed the Deku Tree by summoning a giant spider inside him. He did similar to Jabu-Jabu, by summoning a giant electric jellyfish into his innards. This is before he acquired the Triforce of Power, mind. Also, he brought the dodnogos back to life, since they were an extinct species as of OoT.

He is also able to banish someone to the gap between dimensions if he wants to. Or send someone into the Dark World, where they transform to reflect their true natures. Alternatively, he could just break the continent.

The last powers you mentioned take time, time he may not have. Unless the feat for "banishing" is not the slow move of Tking his puppet down a hole on the ground?

Also "true natures" probably would not help Ganon in the case of Kain/LK and for war? this would just make War vastly more powerful.

Doesn't Jester teleport faster than Kain? Anyway, Kratos would probably end up ripping the little green vampire in half.

i dont know, I remember Jester was insanely quick when he dances upside down with Dante shooting at him, but that particulour feat may not be teleport.

Point being Kain could do a teleport/time slow combo without warning, most feats involving reaction time is based on someone usually being able to predict something happening.

Dante could easily cancel out Kain's time powers with QS.

So, we all agree Team one wins, yes? 👆

If he was already under the effect of the time powers then he would be slowed, as would him "turning around slowly" to see Kain in the first place.

Also Kain would have until Dante turns around, percieves Kain, uses quicksilver and strikes. That would take some time even if he is generally faster. Kain could have done a "blood shower" by then.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, we all agree Team one wins, yes? 👆

the "lollovelink" team probably decided Team 1 wins as soon as they reached "link" on the thread name.....