Originally posted by King Kandy
If you don't have the freedom to cause pain to others, then HOW do you have the right to force people to live painful lives?!
Force? Do we FORCE people to do anything? How would you FORCE anyone to do anything?
With freedom comes responsibility. If you neglect your responsibility, your freedoms goes away.
Now, why do you want to hurt people?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Force? Do we FORCE people to do anything? How would you FORCE anyone to do anything?With freedom comes responsibility. If you neglect your responsibility, your freedoms goes away.
Now, why do you want to hurt people?
You want to prevent people from killing themselves. That is forcing them to stay alive.
No. Pretty much the definition of a "right" is something that doesn't go away no matter what. If it isn't inalienable then it's only a privilege.
Where did you draw that comment from anything I had said?
Originally posted by King Kandy
You want to prevent people from killing themselves. That is forcing them to stay alive.No. Pretty much the definition of a "right" is something that doesn't go away no matter what. If it isn't inalienable then it's only a privilege.
Where did you draw that comment from anything I had said?
There is a difference between forcing someone to stay alive, and saying they do not have the right to take their own life if there is any other alternative.
Right are given. Inalienable rights are still given, and can be taken away. There would be no death penalty if that wasn't true.
You are the one talking about causing pain and equating it to freedom.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is a difference between forcing someone to stay alive, and saying they do not have the right to take their own life if there is any other alternative.Right are given. Inalienable rights are still given, and can be taken away. There would be no death penalty if that wasn't true.
You are the one talking about causing pain and equating it to freedom.
That's all backwards. Rights aren't given. Rights are freedoms that haven't been outlawed away by a particular governing body.
Seriously, people should start understanding that the default is everything is allowed not nothing is allowed but some things are granted by our loving overlords.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Force? Do we FORCE people to do anything? How would you FORCE anyone to do anything?
Threats often work. IE, I put a gun to a love one's head and say, 'suck that horse's cock or I pull the trigger.'
Now, I'm pretty sure (about 94.7%) you don't normally suck on horse cock, yet you would in this hypothetical scenario to save the life of someone dear to you, ergo, you've just been "forced" to do something you didn't want to.
Originally posted by Robtard
Threats often work. IE, I put a gun to a love one's head and say, 'suck that horse's cock or I pull the trigger.'Now, I'm pretty sure (about 94.7%) you don't normally suck on horse cock, yet you would in this hypothetical scenario to save the life of someone dear to you, ergo, you've just been "forced" to do something you didn't want to.
That's brilliant. 🙄 Of course, it had nothing to do with what I was talking about, but why let that get in the way?
Re: suicide
Originally posted by chomperx9
whats the least painful and fastest way to let your life go ?can you go to a hospital and have them put you to sleep instead of you doing something to yourself ?
serious posters only please
dont do it. all things change, all things pass. unless you have a degenerative condition with no physical hope for anything but pain strong enough to make it very improbable of appreciating anything in life, you really wud be doing yourself an ENORMOUS disservice by killing yourself.
think about it, whoever is victimising you, youd still be better off leaving them and living in a trash can then simply not existing at all.
sucky as this life is from the point of view of the living, from the view of everything else in existance, we have the unqualified honor of existing in this point in time and space. it wud almost surely be a waste to end it before it has to end.
many people feel like u are feeling. and most come out thinking that it was worth it to continue living. because when u r where u r, it doesnt feel like anything gets better.
go see a therapist and try and remove yourself from the situation causing u distress. try living on your own or simply not replying when ur parents are being passive aggressive or looking to dump sumthing on u. simply walk to your room, close the door and stay quiet until they are exhausted of talking to the air.
also, id like to say that its rather disturbing to see so many people on this forum who are almostt wholeheartedly supporting this idea of suicide. seriously, if u are smart enough to understand the philosophy behind euthanasia, then ur certainly smart enough to realise that an otherwise healty person who is considering such action is ALREADY not working on completely stable reason and judgement, and to egg him on or even impartially describe ways to end his/her life is the height of recklesness. specially considering that this is in part due to his parents being idiotic with him.