Soldiers Accidentaly Kill Twelve Afghans

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Originally posted by Bicnarok
Well seeing as the US military is the "friendly fire" world champion, not much of a surprise really, except that they didn´t kill any allies in the process.
Or did they...?

Those civilians they killed may have been trying to help them. "Bin-Laden's right there, look behind you! Behi--"

Originally posted by Mindset
All terrible ideas, you terrorist.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Communist terrorist.

How...how......

how DARE yous! weep

Re: Soldiers Accidentaly Kill Twelve Afghans

Originally posted by Nemesis X
ARTICLE EXPLAINING THE ACCIDENTAL MISHAP

NATO Troops spot an enemy convoy and were ready to fire a rocket at it. Unfortunately after they fired, the rocket missed and hit a house with over twelve innocent Afghans in it and all the army can say about this situation is "oops, sorry." 😐

There was a Big Speech and Public Relations campaign which received worldwide wall to wall coverage on all major networks.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2011019167_afghanistan09.html?syndication=rss

Originally published February 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM | Page modified February 8, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Marines focus on civilian safety in Afghanistan

In the weeks leading up to the imminent offensive to take the Helmand River Valley town of Marjah in southern Afghanistan, Marines are reassuring Afghan tribal leaders that the top priority will be the safety of Afghan civilians.

1 Week Later:

Originally posted by Globe Gazette
The rockets were fired by a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, at insurgents who attacked U.S. and Afghan forces, wounding one American and one Afghan, NATO said in a statement. Instead, the projectiles veered 300 yards (meters) off target and blasted a house in the Nad Ali district, which includes Marjah, NATO added.

The top NATO commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, apologized to President Hamid Karzai for “this tragic loss of life” and suspended use of the sophisticated HIMARS system pending “a thorough review of this incident,” NATO said.

Before the offensive began Saturday, Karzai pleaded for the Afghan and foreign commanders to be “seriously careful for the safety of civilians.”

Karzai’s spokesman Waheed Omar said the president “is very upset about what happened” and has been “very seriously conveying his message” of restraint “again and again.”

Allied officials have reported two coalition deaths so far — one American and one Briton, who were both killed Saturday. Afghan officials said at least 27 insurgents have been killed in the offensive.

1:19 am PST February 13, 2010 on Ktvu by ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU, Associated Press Writers

Before

Maj. Gen. Nick Carter, NATO commander of forces in southern Afghanistan, said Afghan and coalition troops, aided by 60 helicopters, made a "successful insertion" into Marjah without incurring any casualties.

"The operation went without a single hitch," Carter said at a briefing in the provincial capital of Lashkar Gah.

Carter said the strike force quickly gained ground as it moved into Marjah and overran disorganized insurgents. "We've caught the insurgents on the hoof, and they're completely dislocated," he said.

Zazai characterized the Taliban resistance as light, saying he had no reports yet of Afghan or NATO casualties.

President Hamid Karzai called on Afghan and international troops "to exercise absolute caution to avoid harming civilians," including avoiding airstrikes in areas where civilians are at risk. In a statement, he also called on insurgent fighters to use the opportunity to renounce violence and reintegrate into civilian life.

The operation, code-named "Moshtarak," or "Together," was described as the biggest joint operation of the Afghan war, with 15,000 troops involved, including some 7,500 troops fighting in Marjah.

Tribal elders have pleaded for NATO to finish the operation quickly and spare civilians -- an appeal that offers some hope the townspeople will cooperate with Afghan and international forces once the Taliban are gone.

Still, the town's residents have displayed few signs of rushing to welcome the attack force.

Carter said the coalition offensive was "personally endorsed and sanctioned" by Karzai during consultations the day before troops went on the move.

A defense official at the Pentagon said it marked a first in terms of both sharing information prior to the attack and planning collaboration with the Afghan government___

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US rockets slam into Afghan home, killing 12

Two US rockets slammed into a home outside the southern Taliban stronghold of Marjah, killing 12 civilians after Afghanistan's president appealed to NATO to take care in its campaign to seize the town.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,449942,00.html

mhmm

The main problem is that the enemies don´t wear uniforms or run around with "I´m a taliban warrior" on their rag like attire.

So it obvious that civilians will be killed, and that the Taliban will say "you killed civilians" even if they weren´t.

Re: Re: Re: Soldiers Accidentaly Kill Twelve Afghans

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have and idea:

Apologize profusely.

Compensate any living relatives with lots of money.

Rebuild the entire village and establish permanent ways of making legit money.

Pull the **** out of Afghanistan.

Get rid of some of our military.

Get rid of some of our foreign bases of operation.

Focus more on developing new technologies, keeping the good stuff for ourselves, and selling the other stuff.

Use the extra money from a reduced military budget and increased revenue from our technology sales, to balance our budget and provide better domestic services.

The aind. (Spelled it that way, on purpose. Veterans of the internet will recongize that.)

Then when the United States gets attacked again, what would you do?

Reminds me of the time I threw a random nade from a distance on MW2 which ended up killing my brother who was on my team.

We ended up losing the war.

😐

Re: Re: Re: Re: Soldiers Accidentaly Kill Twelve Afghans

Originally posted by KidRock
Then when the United States gets attacked again, what would you do?

when did the Taliban attack America?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Soldiers Accidentaly Kill Twelve Afghans

Originally posted by inimalist
when did the Taliban attack America?
Don't you remember? When a bunch of Saudi Arabians, Lebanese, and Egyptians financed by a Saudi Arabian guy living in Afghanistan and sheltered by Pakistanis blew up the White House in Independence day?

That might have been slightly funnier if you were talking about Iraq, Lucien. The Afghanistan link is pretty relevant to 9/11.

Inimalist is referring to the Al-Qaeda/Taliban distinction. Mind you, that's not necessarily a very good point because without there is an entirely reasonable connection between the two.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That might have been slightly funnier if you were talking about Iraq, Lucien. The Afghanistan link is pretty relevant to 9/11.

Inimalist is referring to the Al-Qaeda/Taliban distinction. Mind you, that's not necessarily a very good point because without there is an entirely reasonable connection between the two.

...

😬

Have you met my friend Buzz? He's from the Killington family up in Kent.

presumably if ''Nato'' withdrew the Taliban would then regroup and use their superior weapons tech and knowledge of alien science to Rule The World.

That is what's outlined in their charter.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Soldiers Accidentaly Kill Twelve Afghans

Originally posted by KidRock
Then when the United States gets attacked again, what would you do?

It wouldn't, though.

If it did, I certainly wouldn't create a distractionary "feel good" war to to vent anger. That's for sure.

And, if an idiot wants to committ acts of terror, and he's even halfway intelligent, he'll succeed.

But, do you know the reasons for these attacks?

'cause they hate our freedom? 😮

Yeah they want to invade us and enslave us

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That might have been slightly funnier if you were talking about Iraq, Lucien. The Afghanistan link is pretty relevant to 9/11.

Inimalist is referring to the Al-Qaeda/Taliban distinction. Mind you, that's not necessarily a very good point because without there is an entirely reasonable connection between the two.

no, you are totally right

so, the best way to attack the horizontally organized Al Qaeda network, which at its peak may have had 200-300 fighters in Afghanistan (if worldwide), was to declare war against a nation whose people were not largely supportive of Al Qaeda's ideology and which has now turned into a war against a student revivalist movement which has never had anything resembling anti-Western or even expansionist military agendas.

but no, you are correct, I was making a joke. Obviously the war in Afghanistan has little to do with America being attacked again, save that those who want to kill Americans don't have to travel overseas now.

America may have had more luck getting to al-Quaeda by offering the Taliban a bribe for their handing them over.

Mullah Omar, the leader of the Afghani Taliban, was a very pious individual. While I say he didn't have military aspirations against the west and might not approved of Bin Laden's, there is no reason to think he would have bent to financial incentives.

They really didn't try that though?

EDIT: think like, you and your friends are out at a bar, and one of them is acting like a total dick, and punches some guy in the face, who may have had it comimg, who knows. Either way, agree with the punch or not, whose side are you on?

The random guy's. If he didn't have it coming, I'd side with him.

discuss mmm