Shaak Ti runs a gauntlet

most skilled would make him THE top tier actually.

he was never stated to be the most skilled duelist, for one, he was stated to have unmatched technical skills, for two he never did anything besides get killed my maul... so theres nothing to substantiate the idea that he was the best duelist in the order, and for three, i read somewhere that he himself felt that he was no match for the likes of yoda and mace, so obviously "second to none" would be hyperbole if that were true. i dont remember where i read that though so meh.

actually, the quote doesn't say "technical skill"
WE say that, in order to discount his quote. : )

The quote is actually pretty legitimate. It is just an anomaly though. It doesn't fit with the rest. That is the reason we discount it.

Yep, in the CLone Wars Campaign guide it says he "humbles himself" when he spars against "superior fighters" such as Qui-Gon Jinn and Mace Windu.

oh? thats where it says it?

thats excellent. t'will be helpful later.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
oh? thats where it says it?

thats excellent. t'will be helpful later.

The actual quote is in "Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter"

i looked for it and couldnt find it.. and advent said it wasnt there.

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promise! lol, its in the early part of the book (before he dies obviously) The quote is by the Padawan Chick.

Dasha Assant? She looks like a mutant.

Didn't Gideon make a case about Bondara's skills? They were top tier circa 32 BBY, but when compared to the all-time greats, he wasn't amongst them.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Anoon Bondara was supposedly one of the greatest too. He'd get owned by half this list though. I don't see her beating Sora.

One of the best of the time, but I don't think he got an 'in order's history' compliment like she did. Nor do I see him doing nearly as well against Galen.

Personally I see Shaak-Ti as around Obi-Wan level, maybe even a bit higher.

Originally posted by Q99
Personally I see Shaak-Ti as around Obi-Wan level, maybe even a bit higher.

Obi-Wan's got better defense, which he is famous for, Shaak-ti's style is known for overall elegance, and Kenobi himself has specifically giving her props for being the most cunning Jedi warrior he's ever met who's taught him quite a few tricks.

She's known for her hand to hand skills as well.

I think they're both really good warriors who are better in some areas and worse in others compared to each other.

Q99
Because she's got a title that says she's one of the 6 best fighters in the order at the least, and likely not at the bottom of those 6 judging by other comments?

Q99
Mace and Yoda think she's one of the best duelists in the order's history,

Q99
One of the best of the time, but I don't think he got an 'in order's history' compliment like she did.

Also:

SW Databank
Sora Bulq was one of the greatest lightsaber instructors the Jedi order had ever known, perfecting the various forms of combat techniques, both classical and experimental.

Note I was talking about Bondara not having a 'in the history of the order' quote. Bulq > Bondara.

'One of the great six swordbeings' and Mace and Windu considering her one of the best duelists in the order's history are both from the RotS Novel according to wookiepedia.

Where do you get this "one of the great siw swordbeings" nonsense. I liioked through it and saw no hint of it. The closest that it comes to is when it compares Obi-Wan's skills to other great swordsmen in the PT. That does not mean she is even close to being in the top six.
The quote is "There is an understated elegance in Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber technique, one that is quite unlike the feel one might get from the other great swordsbeings of the Jedi Order. He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become."

Cool no where in here does it say these are the top swordsmen of the order. Rather simply some of the great.

And I could not find a quote where Mace considers her one of the best duelist in the order's history.

I see her stop at 3.

Can we chill on the hostility?

Like I just said, Wookiepedia says it's from the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. The stuff about Obi-Wan thinking she's the most cunning Jedi warrior comes from The Force Unleashed. You can find a list of stuff about her and their sources here. They do talk about her sword skill in more than one place in the novel, I presume.

And honestly I'd put her in the top-6 anyway. She was pretty darn near even with Galen, and we know how we rate Galen next to Anakin around here.

If I had to guess the ones in the top 6, it'd be: (Not in any order)

Mace
Obi-Wan
Shaak
Anakin
Yoda

And maybe Cin Drallig as sixth? It's hard to tell beyond those.

Can we chill on the hostility?

To whom are you referring?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
To whom are you referring?

Just kinda getting that general vibe, it's possible to ask for sources while being polite.

Originally posted by Q99
[B]Can we chill on the hostility?

Like I just said, Wookiepedia says it's from the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. The stuff about Obi-Wan thinking she's the most cunning Jedi warrior comes from The Force Unleashed. You can find a list of stuff about her and their sources here. They do talk about her sword skill in more than one place in the novel, I presume.

And honestly I'd put her in the top-6 anyway. She was pretty darn near even with Galen, and we know how we rate Galen next to Anakin around here.

If I had to guess the ones in the top 6, it'd be: (Not in any order)

Mace
Obi-Wan
Shaak
Anakin
Yoda

And maybe Cin Drallig as sixth? It's hard to tell beyond those.

I have the novel. And wookieepedia is not a source. Yes, Obi-Wan says Shaak Ti is the most cunning warrior he knows, bbut that does not make her a top tier. And I did not see any other place in the novel where her sword skills are praised.

Still, she's praised for grace there, cunning elsewhere... and I don't know any low showings. Between being talked up more and doing well in pretty much every appearance I know, I do get the feeling she's above the likes of Fisto.

I sure wouldn't. She held her own against Galen, yes, but he was not at full power yet. And she had the help of a Sarlacc.

And according to the comic depiction, he almost died in the fight, and in any version she did basically let herself die.

I agree with all but Shaak Ti and Drallig. Ki-Adi-Mundi, Kit Fisto, Sora Bulq, and Depa Billaba all seem to be greater IMO.

I could see one of them instead of Drallig, but I think Shaak Ti's showings are at least as good as theirs.