Originally posted by quanchi112
So saying he isn't 100 times stronger is lowballing Superman? I would think any sane logical person would say you are highballing him without any definitive proof whatsoever.Still speculation.
Originally posted by Starscream MYes, you are correct but to call others lowballers when they disagree with you about this isn't correct or logical.
a lot of what one does when debating comics amounts to speculation.
Originally posted by Omega VisionI never said it wasn't. Again, it's just speculation either way on your part and I disagree.
So was the "if the fight had gone longer Thanos would have won somehow" crap you've spouted.
The sundip in OWAW lasted a very brief time. I'd say its a fair assumption what a week would do.
OWAW Sundipped Superman moved warworld (Brianiac, who had all of Imperiex energies and Imperiex as the energy source of Warworld) against it's engines. He was impervious against all attacks from Brainiac's defense which probably used the same entropy-energies that oneshotted supes. He casually melted everthing thrown at him. He seemed unbeatable in that comic. Though i doubt he was 100 times stronger...
Anyway, team stomps. Guardian amped SBP would be a better choice. This one can be soloed by Sundipped Supes. Either Full Gear WW or WM Thor would give him a fight worth remembering.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
OWAW Sundipped Superman moved warworld (Brianiac, who had all of Imperiex energies and Imperiex as the energy source of Warworld) against it's engines. He was impervious against all attacks from Brainiac's defense which probably used the same entropy-energies that oneshotted supes. He casually melted everthing thrown at him. He seemed unbeatable in that comic.
exactly
maybe he wasn't 100x more powerful
but he was def more than 10x more powerful
maybe 30x?
Originally posted by Starscream M
exactlymaybe he wasn't 100x more powerful
but he was def more than 10x more powerful
maybe 30x?
I don't know. Though i know now why you think he was x100 times stronger. John Henry in the Entropy Aegis couldn't hold back the Conduits because they have "Magnified in Strength a Hundredfold!" Superman breached the defenses and moved Warworld and the conduits in the process without trouble.
Though does this really makes him a 100 times stronger? 😕
Originally posted by Batman-Primehuh...interesting.
John Henry in the Entropy Aegis couldn't hold back the Conduits because they have "Magnified in Strength a Hundredfold!" Superman breached the defenses and moved Warworld and the conduits in the process without trouble.
I wonder what darkodin, quanchi, and jake have to say about that. that quote seems to support my position.
Originally posted by Starscream M
exactlymaybe he wasn't 100x more powerful
but he was def more than 10x more powerful
maybe 30x?
See here is the problem it is clearly stated how much stronger thor and WW get when using these amps.
also when guess some who gets a huge increase is alos hard for example.
Kurse when he fought thor at 4 times Thor's strength he manhandled him.
Know superman base level is high to start with.
So if he was 15 times stronger it Superman would be a monster. We just don't know how strong /powerfull he will be.
IMO he should be the stronger then let say WM THor but too how much not one could guess
Originally posted by Omega VisionLike around 5-7 times as powerful.
What would your guess be then?
Originally posted by Starscream MSo now you are back to supporting he's 100 times stronger? Do you realize how strong that makes him?
huh...interesting.I wonder what darkodin, quanchi, and jake have to say about that. that quote seems to support my position.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Like around 5-7 times as powerful.
5-7 times would be to low as the Entropy Aegis > Superman. 20 times maybe, though since Loeb wrote that story x100 might be even realistic 😖hifty:.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So now you are back to supporting he's 100 times stronger? Do you realize how strong that makes him?
Let me guess, in your opinion not nearly as strong as Thanos? 🙄
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeLoeb never had Superman beat darkseid on his own without help so I think you are exaggerating Loeb's Superman. I gave my opinion. You of course are more prone to overrate Superman than I am.
5-7 times would be to low as the Entropy Aegis > Superman. 20 times maybe, though since Loeb wrote that story x100 might be even realistic 😖hifty:.Let me guess, in your opinion not nearly as strong as Thanos? 🙄
Thanos has nothing to do with this thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Loeb never had Superman beat darkseid on his own without help so I think you are exaggerating Loeb's Superman. I gave my opinion. You of course are more prone to overrate Superman than I am.Thanos has nothing to do with this thread.
Yeah because even Loeb knows that Darkseid > Superman. Though this is Sundipped Superman, you know he never battled Darkseid 😉.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeThen loeb doesn't overrate Superman like most claim. Glad to see you changed your mind. Loeb also had them stalemate so I think you are off there.
Yeah because even Loeb knows that Darkseid > Superman. Though this is Sundipped Superman, you know he never battled Darkseid 😉.
I agree sundipped Superman stomps him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then loeb doesn't overrate Superman like most claim. Glad to see you changed your mind. Loeb also had them stalemate so I think you are off there.I agree sundipped Superman stomps him.
Change my mind? And yes, Loeb gave the Darkseid Avatar the respect he deserved.
I agree Sundipped Superman would stomp Thanos.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeThanos would beat the crap out of sundipped superman but that's neither here nor there.
Change my mind? And yes, Loeb gave the Darkseid Avatar the respect he deserved.I agree Sundipped Superman would stomp Thanos.
Loeb didn't have Superman any more powerful than normal.