Originally posted by Omega VisionI see your point. But for the purposes of versus threads, if one character has demonstrated the ability to stop time, and his opponent(s) have not, then I am only going to assume the former character is the only one capable of such.
When dealing with high end cosmics and reality warpers, time (which isn't even a universal constant) really shouldn't matter. 😬
Originally posted by Galan007
I see your point. But for the purposes of versus threads, if one character has demonstrated the ability to stop time, and his opponent(s) have not, then I am only going to assume the former character is the only one capable of such.
Originally posted by MindsetSpectre can't even affect people without souls. He's as useless as SoK. none
Spectre could have existed time all over his face.
Originally posted by Omega VisionTime manipulation is rarely used by any character(s) capable of doing so. For instance, Extant showed us how quick (and relatively unexciting) battles can be when temporal manipulation is used offensively.
You know what I mean. Timestopping feats don't automatically put you above a character without time stopping feats. Waverider is not > Monarch for instance.
That said, writers are going to consider the plot of the story well before they take into account what a given character is capable of.
Stop time? ... to defeat HOM Wanda? 😐
Wanda rewrote the actual Concept of Time itself,
yet we are to assume she may not have been able to stop it?
She also tore the entire Omniverse (space-time and all in-between) to pieces,
and then rebuilt it with a thought, but meh.
Anyway, during the HOM arc, Wanda was giving God status over Marvel.
No one is defeating her, just like no one could during said arc.
Wanda is one of the most powerful characters ever to exist in Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Stop time? ... to defeat HOM Wanda? 😐Wanda rewrote the actual Concept of Time itself,
yet we are to assume she may not have been able to stop it?
She also tore the entire Omniverse (space-time and all in-between) to pieces,
and then rebuilt it with a thought, but meh.Anyway, during the HOM arc, Wanda was giving God status over Marvel.
No one is defeating her, just like no one could during said arc.
Wanda is one of the most powerful characters ever to exist in Marvel.
Wait....is that the real Master or Colossus?
Originally posted by Galan007
The simple fact that Wanda released the chaos wave is not indicative of her having *controllable* temporal manipulation powers of her own, imo.A military general can fire off a nuclear weapon simply by pushing a button. That doesn't mean he could vaporize a city on his own.
Wanda did. That displays control over the Chaos Wave.
Originally posted by EnyalusIt also doesn't mean he could rebuild the vaporized city with a thought afterwards,
to add to your analogy.Wanda did.
That displays control over the Chaos Wave.
Anyway ... 👆
That aside, Wanda warped the 616 Universe, (space-time)
turning it into a completely different Universe. (58163)
(and this had nothing to do with the Chaos Wave)
So, "Time" was Wanda's plaything, in either case.