Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygonOh. I read in a thread some time ago,
someone said the Chaos Wave originated from Chthon or maybe another Elder God/Abstract?
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygonPardon my lack of knowledge of the Marvel cosmology
No one here is defeating Wanda.
Originally posted by john allerdycescarlet witch couldnt even stop an arrow being fired at her from hawkeye
Yea, I remember that incident,
when a distraught Wanda was distracted by Dr Strange,
while she was fueling the Chaos Wave,
and while she was in the process of controlling the 616 Reality,
and also a separate Reality within her sanctum just to show Strange a certain scenario.
I'd like to see Hawkeye
or anyone for that matter sneak anything pass a battle ready Wanda.
Originally posted by john allerdycehow in the hell would she survive blasts from anti or solar?
Even for those who want to downplay what Wanda did and are going with Solar winning...how does he beat COIE AM?? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Solar's most powerful feat was destroying a universe with a black hole.
COIE AM destroyed over 3,000 universes, on panel...It's kind of what he does. 😬 Why go with Solar over COIE AM?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Stop time? ... to defeat HOM Wanda? 😐Wanda rewrote the actual Concept of Time itself,
yet we are to assume she may not have been able to stop it?
She also tore the entire Omniverse (space-time and all in-between) to pieces,
and then rebuilt it with a thought, but meh.Anyway, during the HOM arc, Wanda was giving God status over Marvel.
No one is defeating her, just like no one could during said arc.
Wanda is one of the most powerful characters ever to exist in Marvel.
You think she was above TOAA 🙄
Originally posted by Enyalus
Even for those who want to downplay what Wanda did and are going with Solar winning...how does he beat COIE AM?? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Solar's most powerful feat was destroying a universe with a black hole.COIE AM destroyed over 3,000 universes, on panel...It's kind of what he does. 😬 Why go with Solar over COIE AM?
Solar created multiverses
Impressive ... but Wanda tore to pieces and rebuilt an infinite number of Multiverses.
Originally posted by Endless MikeYou think she was above TOAA
That aside, no, she could never be above that which drew her into existence.
The Marvel Universe, and everything in it,
is nothing more than ink and paper to TOAA.
(literally depicted on panel as what is and how TOAA operates)
Basically, TOAA is a fictional illustrated representation of the writers/artists of Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Impressive ... but Wanda tore to pieces and rebuilt an infinite number of Multiverses.If you know me then you know I wouldn't never think that. 🙂
That aside, no, she could never be above that which drew her into existence.
The Marvel Universe, and everything in it,
is nothing more than ink and paper to TOAA.
(literally depicted on panel as what is and how TOAA operates)Basically, TOAA is a fictional illustrated representation of the writers/artists of Marvel.
You said she was given God status over Marvel and no one could defeat her.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That was one member spreading that 100% bull shitWe all learn as we go.
"while he and the Scarlet Witch (a being powered by the Elder God Chthon with enough power to generate alternate realities and permanently shift the nature of the entire Marvel Multiverse) clashed over the Evil Eye of Avalon"
directly from here
http://marvel.wikia.com/Dormammu_(Earth-616)#cite_note-2
Originally posted by Endless MikeYou said she was given God status over Marvel and no one could defeat her.
TOAA = the writers who make up the stories we read,
and the artists that bring these stories to reality with a pencil.
This is the basic understanding
of Marvel's depiction of TOAA on panel which is supported by their Handbooks.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C"while he and the Scarlet Witch (a being powered by the Elder God Chthon with enough power to generate alternate realities and permanently shift the nature of the entire Marvel Multiverse) clashed over the Evil Eye of Avalon"
directly from here
http://marvel.wikia.com/Dormammu_(Earth-616)#cite_note-2
http://marvel.wikia.com/Main_Page
"Welcome to the Marvel Database Project,
the world's largest Marvel Comics encyclopedia that anyone can edit".
😬
Dude, you should really read comics, (including official Marvel Handbooks)
and stop basing your ideas off of wiki nonsense.
I told ya before, Wanda gained her initial abilities from Chthon,
but Wanda's full potential had/has nothing at all to do with Chthon.
Chthon bonded to Wanda in her infancy, this gave her limited mystical abilities,
but Wanda separated herself from that bond many years ago.
Wanda retained her abilities although she was no longer bonded to Chthon,
Wanda later reached a potential Chthon could only dream of.
Why?
Because Wanda is the 616 Nexus Being,
a living focal point for the 616 Reality's mystical energy.
In fact, this is the reason Chthon bonded to her to begin with,
because he knew someday Wanda (due to her own inherent purpose)
would increase in capability to infinite levels. (HOM)
So he thought he would be a part of that potential, but sorry, no.
Originally posted by Mr Masteri wasnt talking about hom wanda. but yea your right
Right, but when I say this I obviously do not mean TOAA,
who is not a character that can be categorized with their drawings.TOAA = the writers who make up the stories we read,
and the artists that bring these stories to reality with a pencil.This is the basic understanding
of Marvel's depiction of TOAA on panel which is supported by their Handbooks.Directly from "wikia" garbage ... facepalm
http://marvel.wikia.com/Main_Page
"Welcome to the Marvel Database Project,
".
the world's largest Marvel Comics encyclopedia [b]that anyone can edit😬
Dude, you should really read comics, (including official Marvel Handbooks)
and stop basing your ideas off of wiki nonsense.I told ya before, Wanda gained her initial abilities from Chthon,
but Wanda's full potential had/has nothing at all to do with Chthon.Chthon bonded to Wanda in her infancy, this gave her limited mystical abilities,
but Wanda separated herself from that bond many years ago.Wanda retained her abilities although she was no longer bonded to Chthon,
Wanda later reached a potential Chthon could only dream of.Why?
Because Wanda is the 616 Nexus Being,
a living focal point for the 616 Reality's mystical energy.In fact, this is the reason Chthon bonded to her to begin with,
because he knew someday Wanda (due to her own inherent purpose)
would increase in capability to infinite levels. (HOM)
So he thought he would be a part of that potential, but sorry, no. [/B]