Originally posted by khazra
and he does have a losing record on the hulk.
If anything, Thor is underrated on KMC. Especially with the 'full capacity' rules of the forum in effect.
Originally posted by Starscream M
thor is overrated I believein comics, he always struggles against the hulk. obviously marvel's intent is that a full rage hulk is actually more powerful than thor, despite their powersets.
but on KMC, people always give it to thor over hulk.
What high herald doesnt struggle against bricks?
Hell, Odin even struggles against bricks (mangog).
Silver Surfer/Thanos without even using his cosmic powers crushed him but surfer rarely gets beat down by bricks so we cant use him.
Thor/ the destroyer has good showings against him, Wrecker, Hulk, Mangog.
Superman/ Konvikt, Doomsday, Shaggy man, Titus, Despero, The general, Kalibak, Orion, Grundy, Mongul.
Green Lantern/ Doomsday, Despero, Grundy, Titus, Mongul.
I can keep going for days.
So dont just bring up thor having problems with brick when people in his weight class have the same kind of problems. Hell some have more bricks as enemies than what thor has had his entire career.
Originally posted by Enyalus
No, he doesn't. Not even close. He's won the overwhelming majority of matchups against the Hulk. And even when he slugs it out with him, he still stalemates (like in the Defenders issue where he stalemated him physically for hours.)If anything, Thor is underrated on KMC. Especially with the 'full capacity' rules of the forum in effect.
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The fact that some posters think Thor can't do anything without Mjolnir is a testament to that.
Originally posted by Nihilist
They are certain things Thor cant do without his hammer.........like shout "have at thee" and for Odin for Asgard".
He can, but it's far less epic. 😉
Toward the end of his previous volume, Thor was shown as still being able to kick ass without Mjolnir. Cap even comments on it.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankBecause Thor doesn't fight at his optimum levels against the Hulk. He just doesn't. if he does it's a solid win though.
In a comic fight, Thor fights down to Hulk's level, and it's obvious that he does. He resorts to brawling with him in close quarters combat instead of using his more exotic techniques such as high end weather manipulation, energy blasts, the Anti-Force, Godblast, etc. And even when he handicaps himself in a way, Thor holds his own against a Hulk, who by the very definition of his power set, is amping due to his anger. So, yeah, I'm lost as to how in a forum setting, fighting at optimal levels, Thor doesn't get a majority against Hulk. I'm not saying he instantly Godblasts or timestops, but at his higher levels of power, he's beyond Hulk.
Namor is underrated on this board in my opinion. Namor at the least is the dead equal of Hercules at full strength. This dude has out slugged Hulk, was defeating Black Bolt in a brawl who was amping, knocked Norrin on his ass, went toe to toe with Void possessed Sentry, beat the utter shit out of Ares and Wonderman at the same time, broken the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, overpowered a force projected that was holding in place all of the Defenders (Hulk, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange etc.) and yet some people actually think Colossus is stronger than him? I laugh at the thought and at them.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Namor is underrated on this board in my opinion. Namor at the least is the dead equal of Hercules at full strength. This dude has out slugged Hulk, was defeating Black Bolt in a brawl who was amping, knocked Norrin on his ass, went toe to toe with Void possessed Sentry, beat the utter shit out of Ares and Wonderman at the same time, broken the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, overpowered a force projected that was holding in place all of the Defenders (Hulk, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange etc.) and yet some people actually think Colossus is stronger than him? I laugh at the thought and at them.
Damn. Namor does need respect.
True, Namor does get underrated. Mostly due to bios I'm guessing. Never understood it though.
Rage Of Asgard Thor also has a power disparity between comics and KMC.
Quanos too. Quanos is above Odin, because he is. Nuff said.
H1's DC characters. Hope he never gets any followers.
I'd like to say Superman, but I would be hounded with 'This looks like a job for Superman" quotes.
Wolverine is actually (and it pains me to say it), underrated by a lot on this board following what he does in comics. And overrated by like four people.
Hulk at times has a power disparity. He's either too weak, or too strong. I know it's hard to say he's too strong on a board due to the whole "My semen multiple with rage" thing going on, but he does have a lot of things that should never happen to him in comics.
More later, maybe.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI agree namor is underrated.
Namor is underrated on this board in my opinion. Namor at the least is the dead equal of Hercules at full strength. This dude has out slugged Hulk, was defeating Black Bolt in a brawl who was amping, knocked Norrin on his ass, went toe to toe with Void possessed Sentry, beat the utter shit out of Ares and Wonderman at the same time, broken the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, overpowered a force projected that was holding in place all of the Defenders (Hulk, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange etc.) and yet some people actually think Colossus is stronger than him? I laugh at the thought and at them.
Originally posted by BlanketI base my opinion on their fight and Thanos' increase in power. You are free to disagree with me but I don't just make things up.
True, Namor does get underrated. Mostly due to bios I'm guessing. Never understood it though.Rage Of Asgard Thor also has a power disparity between comics and KMC.
Quanos too. Quanos is above Odin, because he is. Nuff said.
H1's DC characters. Hope he never gets any followers.
I'd like to say Superman, but I would be hounded with 'This looks like a job for Superman" quotes.
Wolverine is actually (and it pains me to say it), underrated by a lot on this board following what he does in comics. And overrated by like four people.
Hulk at times has a power disparity. He's either too weak, or too strong. I know it's hard to say he's too strong on a board due to the whole "My semen multiple with rage" thing going on, but he does have a lot of things that should never happen to him in comics.
More later, maybe.
Originally posted by quanchi112Saying Thanos is above Odin based on a vague upgrade and one feat is making things up. Or wishful/delusional thinking. Either or.
I told you why I thought that. I didn't make an event up. I think you are as confused yet again. You stated I make things up.
That's like me saying that Black Adam would beat Spectre because before he tore his head off, but then he was upgraded in WW3 and beat Jakeem Thunder.
Originally posted by BlanketBut we've already seen odin and Thanos duke it out without a winner. If Black adam showed he could go the distance or have a prolonged fight with an out for death Spectre then I'd see your point.
Saying Thanos is above Odin based on a vague upgrade and one feat is making things up. Or wishful/delusional thinking. Either or.That's like me saying that Black Adam would beat Spectre because before he tore his head off, but then he was upgraded in WW3 and beat Jakeem Thunder.
I told you why I think this way you obviously don't agree but again I am not making up things to ram my opinion home.