Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'm doubting Fox can take the Plasma Beam. If he can, Ghor's armor is pretty tough to. It's funny you posted this thread, because I literally JUST fought Ghor for my second time, like 15 minutes ago.
Ghor tossed Samus' ship, and was actually able to do significant damage to it while it had it's armor up. Remember, naturally ships are designed for atmospheric reentries, and Samus' had its armor up at the time. That's some power.
I think the blades of his armor are super-heated to, but I can't prove this.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Fox won't want close quarters for long. I'm seriously seeing one hit from Ghor physically taking him out.
As for close range, if Ghor jumps and stomps the ground, or spins around while shooting his plasma beam, Fox is pretty much screwed. Close range won't help Fox in this battle.
Originally posted by Spartan117ftw
Even on hypermode, he's not that hard. Seriously, rundas was a much bigger challenge.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Rundas pissed me off. Damn that ice flail!
I'm sure that everyone is aware that Rundas was voiced by Vegeta(and near everyone else) from Dragonball Z? Doesn't matter, but I like that kind of stuff.
But yeah, Ghor is one tough dude when he's in his armor. Scan data:
Subject is a veteran of the liberation war of Wotan VII. Only 6% of subject’s birth-body remains: the rest is state-of-the-art cyberware. Despite his career and heavy cybernetic modification, subject is known for his high level of empathy and compassion. Ghor is rather gentle and approaches situations logically, but is not the most skilled of fighters. Intel suggests he even has a sense of humor. Subject has often championed the weak, poor, and downtrodden, working for free or giving bounty money earned to the victims of his targets. Subject can merge his cybernetic body into larger mechanisms, including gunships and fightercraft. This merging will alter Ghor’s personality and he will become incredibly aggressive and violent. Data indicates a high proficiency with computer infiltration and manipulation. High level of mechanical empathy with artificial intelligence.
Ghor is a cybernetic bounty hunter, capable of merging his body into large mechanisms. The most common of these is his armorsuit, which doubles as a gunship and provides him with a formidable combat arsenal. The merges are often accompanied by a shift in personality, replacing his normally calm demeanor with an aggressive attitude. He demonstrates a high proficiency with all things mechanical and is often called upon for missions requiring computer infiltration or manipulation.
Ghor’s energy shield is capable of repelling all weapon fire, but the back-mounted generator is exposed to attack. Overloading the generator could expose the well-protected critical systems behind his battle armor. Ghor’s arsenal is considerable. Plasma-based beam weapons, attack claws, and a multimissile system are at the cyborg’s disposal in battle. These battle systems can be combined and fired at once as a devastating alpha strike. Target is also capable of a high-speed ramming attack, although this is potentially dangerous if performed over a slippery surface.
Originally posted by Spartan117ftw
This, because he lifted and threw the gunship (which weighed at approximately 135 tons), and even gave it severe damage just from smashing it against the wall.As for close range, if Ghor jumps and stomps the ground, or spins around while shooting his plasma beam, Fox is pretty much screwed. Close range won't help Fox in this battle.
i hate to sound like the fanboy here, so if i am just tell me, but don't you think someone with the reaction time and speed that Fox has, that he could dodge the stomp and plasma whip thing. it didn't seem very fast to me.
Im talking about fox using said speed and having a sword that can cut through most anything, would rush in before Ghor really has an isea what its going up against and that fox would at least partially damage it to the point of malfunction, then play it safe and dash in and out to attack....
Originally posted by Maester_yoda
i hate to sound like the fanboy here, so if i am just tell me, but don't you think someone with the reaction time and speed that Fox has, that he could dodge the stomp and plasma whip thing. it didn't seem very fast to me.Im talking about fox using said speed and having a sword that can cut through most anything, would rush in before Ghor really has an isea what its going up against and that fox would at least partially damage it to the point of malfunction, then play it safe and dash in and out to attack....
Even with his speed and reactions, Fox doesn't have the durability to sustain a hit from, nor the power to do any damage to Ghor.
Additionally since the cutscenes are rendered in game I don't think the game is able to show you the real speed of Samus and Ghor. For example, Samus has the ability to run faster than the speed of sound, and the reactions to go with it. Maybe in Other M we'll get some real showings of speed/power, until then the Manga is a huge source of feats.
Originally posted by Maester_yoda
what durability feats does Ghor have that rex didn't?Ghor’s energy shield is capable of repelling all weapon fire, but the back-mounted generator is exposed to attack.
Couldn't in theory Fox harm it this way? enough to slow it down?
If it's normal mode, Fox can put Ghor down.
In Hyper mode, Ghor is powered by Phazon enhancing his abilities. For one, Phazon is usually poisonous and will affect Gray Fox. Also, his shots will be fired faster and the vibro-blade isn't doing squat against high-powered lasers. I'll even say that Hyper Ghor is capable of destroying a fully-functional Rex. Samus in Hypermode can destroy Pirate assault vehicles with ease.
Fox's cannon and sword will have little effect when Ghor is powered up.
Hyper Mode is a state in which a creature utilizes phazon to power up. Phazon is one of the most powerful, and dangerous, substances I've ever seen. Sparknotes version: phazon is a highly radioactive substance that can take many forms, including solid, liquid, gas, plasma, and "energy". It is known to be sentient, and merely coming coming close is enough to kill something unprotected. Touching it tends to vaporize things. However, it has a very high energy output, and is sometimes used for fuel. When a weapon is phazon charged, it becomes much more powerful and can cause total atomic disruption.
Another aspect of phazon is its corrupting properties. Exposure to small amounts can lead to "phazon madness" and begin corrupting a creature. It causes increased aggression, mutation, and conversion into more phazon. It also makes things much stronger. Left unchecked, it can corrupt an entire planet, turning it into a living being that attacks other planets.
Ghor basically injects this into his armor systems to power up. Samus does, too, as well as several others, who sometimes gain the ability to do it naturally through their corruption. Ghor was corrupted, however. Remember that scan saying how kind hearted he was? Not anymore. Now he's trying to spread phazon and corrupt or kill as much as possible.
So, when Ghor activates Hyper Mode, his durability and firepower go through the roof, and he gets a little faster. He's probably radioactive, as well. I guess Super Saiyan is an adequate description.
Originally posted by Cyner
For example, Samus has the ability to run faster than the speed of sound, and the reactions to go with it.
Originally posted by Cyner
She can do that with ease without Hypermode