I posted a video of Raziel turning invisible, he holds still for two seconds. Plenty long enough for Link to sword him.
Conversely, he's got a few shows of acrobatic ability, but.. Nothing that makes him more agile or faster than Link. Nor does he have any reaction feats. Link does, as well as a cutscene which shows just how quick Link is.
So, yeah.. spitey thread is spitey. Link wins. Poll seems to agree, too.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I believe we've had this conversation before too, but you still do it, so let's have the conversation again!You constantly ask for proof of things while providing no evidence for anything you say.
How does an immaterial sword help him then?
1. Any long range attack would kill Link. I demand feats for the power of these spells.
2. I demand video evidence showing Raziel turning invisible and speed feats.
3. I demand to see a vid where the Reaver has torn a soul from a body.
4. I demand video evidence that Raziel can roll, jump, slide, and dodge. Speed feats will help with this.
5. I demand evidence that Link has human statistics.
6. I demand evidence that it is a normal sword.
And don't forget, you better be backing this junk up with statements directly from the developers. Otherwise it's all useless, amirite?
TOONFORCE
I dont need to provide evidence when I am simply using base abilities that someone, a human even could use. Let alone Raziel.
You demand nothing from me, you cannot debate and you ignore evidence anyway so theres no point in showing you anything.
And you dont demand evidence from your side of the argument either, you need to provide proof that Link with no items is beyond a human being of around 4'10 height. Same with the swords feats.
You demand nothing from me, you cannot debate and you ignore evidence anyway so theres no point in showing you anything.haermm IIIIIIRONYYYY
And you dont demand evidence from your side of the argument either, you need to provide proof that Link with no items is beyond a human being of around 4'10 height. Same with the swords feats.All already supplied, you ignored it in favour of your make believe land.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I posted a video of Raziel turning invisible, he holds still for two seconds. Plenty long enough for Link to sword him.Conversely, he's got a few shows of acrobatic ability, but.. Nothing that makes him more agile or faster than Link. Nor does he have any reaction feats. Link does, as well as a cutscene which shows just how quick Link is.
So, yeah.. spitey thread is spitey. Link wins. Poll seems to agree, too.
Nah, he does not hold still, he goes invisible after a second or less and even 2 seconds is not long enough for Link to even pass the huge gap Raziel could put between them.
lol dinky link as agile as Raziel now? 😆
Appeal to popularity.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
haermm IIIIIIRONYYYYAll already supplied, you ignored it in favour of your make believe land.
You just proved my point 😆
Nothings been supplied at all for this, only that Link can spin....
Not an appeal, an observation.
lol dinky link as agile as Raziel now?
It's funny you laugh when Link has more agility feats than Raziel.
YouTube video 2:57, for example.
Raziel isn't fast enough to put any distance between them, and especially not enough to allow him to use a 2 second cast time spell. Which won't help him anyway.
Originally posted by Burning thought
I dont need to provide evidence when I am simply using base abilities that someone, a human even could use. Let alone Raziel.You demand nothing from me, you cannot debate and you ignore evidence anyway so theres no point in showing you anything.
And you dont demand evidence from your side of the argument either, you need to provide proof that Link with no items is beyond a human being of around 4'10 height. Same with the swords feats.
I demand that you prove Raziel is > a normal human. Developer statements, canon reasons, and feats. Go.
Link had to do it, get crackin'.
I lol'd at 4'10" height. What did you base that on?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not an appeal, an observation.It's funny you laugh when Link has more agility feats than Raziel.
YouTube video 2:57, for example.Raziel isn't fast enough to put any distance between them, and especially not enough to allow him to use a 2 second cast time spell. Which won't help him anyway.
Thats more speed from that cute little toon character there. And I laugh again, Link may have more feats but their going to be poorer unless hes got the beauty of toonforce behind him.
he would only have to:
1:32-1:33
A few times and he would be well away from dinky link. more than enough time to go invisible in a second, Link prob would not even notice. Then hes soul food.
Sadly, that's not good enough, BT.
Annnd, like I keep telling you, invisibility won't help Raziel. Link's fought many more dangerous enemies than poor little Raz who were invisible, Ganon among them.
Also, Link's protected, like I keep telling you.
Now go do as Moo asks and explain why Raziel is somehow > human?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sadly, that's not good enough, BT.Annnd, like I keep telling you, invisibility won't help Raziel. Link's fought many more dangerous enemies than poor little Raz who were invisible, Ganon among them.
Also, Link's protected, like I keep telling you.
Now go do as Moo asks and explain why Raziel is somehow > human?
Yes it is, Links got nothing that can keep up with Raziel jumping like a chimp on steroids.
Show me him defeating their invisibiliy in a cutscene without items.
Nah, hes not.....hes not been protected by the master sword for these elements that Raziel can use. All Raziel would have to do is unleash the power of light to blind Link.
Nah, hes not.....hes not been protected by the master sword for these elements that Raziel can use. All Raziel would have to do is unleash the power of light to blind Link.You really need to play a Zelda game.. The master sword can absorb light, including the sols in TP, and reflect and protect anything else Raziel throws at him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
YouTube videoYouTube video
6:50Note that Sheik is /perfectly silent, and Link still detects her.
😆 thats not the "fought invisible ganon" feat your refering to is it?
Shes not invisible, breathing, subtle movements and the presence of a person can allow you to notice them, for all we know he saw her out of the corner of his eye. Raziel will not be doing the same thing, he will be prob making more noise sure, but he will be jumping all over the place, leaping from the air and Link will not have a clue where hes coming from.
The stuff before that is more interesting, the cutscene actually points out that adult Link cannot even use childlink items. So in any thread where we use link, we have to at least take into account whether he is adult or child.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You really need to play a Zelda game.. The master sword can absorb light, including the sols in TP, and reflect and protect anything else Raziel throws at him.
You really need to play a Soul reaver game, absorbing "light" is irrelevant when its a flash, unless your saying Link is invisible constantly becaues light never reaches him..... 🙄
He will be blinded by the flash that originates from Raziel, I wouldnt be surprised if this "light" absorbtion was in the form of slow little orbs again.
The stuff before that is more interesting, the cutscene actually points out that adult Link cannot even use childlink items. So in any thread where we use link, we have to at least take into account whether he is adult or child.You mean... The boomerang that no one's ever brought up in a thread, ever?
As for the rest of your post, typical, ignoring evidence. Link can detect someone who's perfeclty silent without seeing them. Raziel's loud, and Link can manage fighting Ganon when he's invisible.
Ganon >>>>>>> Raziel.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You mean... The boomerang that no one's ever brought up in a thread, ever?As for the rest of your post, typical, ignoring evidence. Link can detect someone who's perfeclty silent without seeing them. Raziel's loud, and Link can manage fighting Ganon when he's invisible.
Ganon >>>>>>> Raziel.
But childlink has his own games, I highly doubt the boomerang is the only object unique to Link in those games in comparison to the adult timeline.
Did not ignore anything
not really, Ganons a big pig who shoots tiny slow moving bolts....
So Links going to be blinded by raziels light who will be shrouded in his darkness, a blind midget fighting an invisible superhuman and link wins? 😆
But childlink has his own games, I highly doubt the boomerang is the only object unique to Link in those games in comparison to the adult timeline...Damnit, BT, play a damn Zelda game. The adult timeline only has Adult Link in it ONCE, in the game that caused the split, canonicly first in the series. Also, that restriction was lifted in every game after OoT, where it was only in place as a gameplay mechanic anyway. Adult Link uses everything young Link used, and vice versa, in many other games.
Lol, you're seriously going to try and play game mechanics on a game that's older than you are? Those "tiny, slow moving bolts" can destroy islands, and take the form of lightning. You don't expect the player to actually be able to cope with giant screen encompassing lightning that moves faster than we can react to in an 8 bit video game, do you?
Troll more.
Like I keep telling you, Link could win this with his eyes closed, it's that bad.
Originally posted by iChaos
Lol, the Hylden Lord didn't have any trouble putting Raziel down...easily.
Why do you keep bringing up irrelevant statements? you brought one up in the horse racing thread as well.....
And the Hylden lord can fly and has magic power, this link has no comparison to him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
..Damnit, BT, play a damn Zelda game. The adult timeline only has Adult Link in it ONCE, in the game that caused the split, canonicly first in the series. Also, that restriction was lifted in every game after OoT, where it was only in place as a gameplay mechanic anyway. Adult Link uses everything young Link used, and vice versa, in many other games.Lol, you're seriously going to try and play game mechanics on a game that's older than you are? Those "tiny, slow moving bolts" can destroy islands, and take the form of lightning. You don't expect the player to actually be able to cope with giant screen encompassing lightning that moves faster than we can react to in an 8 bit video game, do you?
Troll more.
Like I keep telling you, Link could win this with his eyes closed, it's that bad.
yet it seems only one game canonically states within the cutscene you used for Shieks stillness that he cannot use child links items.
Theres no proof in that lol. And your assuming their their size, the game displays them as tiny bolts, your BS and fanon will not help you.
Hes going to have his eyes closed with blindness but he wont win thats for sure, he will be an easy kill for a lazy raziel.