Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Loki vs. Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman

Started by the ninjak5 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-

so the JLA members aren't good tacticians? really.

I never said that. Just said the Asgardians luuurve a fight.

Team 1, because WW has the lasso of truth, which is dumb... VERY dumb....

No but honestly, i think team 2 has a good shot.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I never said that. Just said the Asgardians luuurve a fight.

so does most of team 2.

and i seriously doubt one smack of bill's hammer will put down superman. he's taken much worse.

Originally posted by -Pr-
so does most of team 2.

and i seriously doubt one smack of bill's hammer will put down superman. he's taken much worse.

Obviously this fight would go much longer than my break down.

And I said mortally wounds him not kills or knocks out him.
You stated yourself that Supes like to see what his opponents can dish out when he fights people for the first time due to his incredible durability. Unfortunately for Supes BRB's hammer is as enchanted as Diana's tiara thing but has a sharp POINTY end. Add Loki casting spells on him. If BRB got him on the head OUCH! Gashing wound. Then BRB proceeds to clobber with the sharp end.....Somethinf Thor can't do.

Just a thought.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Obviously this fight would go much longer than my break down.

And I said mortally wounds him not kills or knocks out him.
You stated yourself that Supes like to see what his opponents can dish out when he fights people for the first time due to his incredible durability. Unfortunately for Supes BRB's hammer is as enchanted as Diana's tiara thing but has a sharp POINTY end. Add Loki casting spells on him. If BRB got him on the head OUCH! Gashing wound. Then BRB proceeds to clobber with the sharp end.....Somethinf Thor can't do.

Just a thought.

An energy blast and a hammer aren't the same thing. You honestly think he'd stand there when he knows (from basic knowledge) that Bill is magical, and is swinging a hammer at his face? I seriously doubt it.

True! But I still think the hammer will be much more effective than Thor's.

Originally posted by the ninjak
True! But I still think the hammer will be much more effective than Thor's.

maybe, but i don't rate Bill as being as dangerous as Thor, tbh.

Originally posted by the ninjak
True! But I still think the hammer will be much more effective than Thor's.

due to one end being sharp?
that would surprise me

Originally posted by -Pr-
maybe, but i don't rate Bill as being as dangerous as Thor, tbh.

I agree. Maybe they should swap hammers, temporarily.

Originally posted by Warlord
due to one end being sharp?
that would surprise me

Against a Kryptonian .......yes.

what makes u think that?
it would be the equivalent difference between a warhammer and an axe against a normal soldier...IMO superman could withstand his arms being broken by a magical hammer (in one or two blows at least) so he could wihthstand them being cut

Originally posted by Q99
Overall I think she has the advantage in an aggregate of all fields.

I can't really recall a time when he's packed more whallop than she has. His endurance is definitely less- he gets tired easier, even when flame's not around.

They're all without a doubt peers physically, but it's been outright said that Superman is the only one in the League who could stop an out-of-control Diana, a statement made with J'onn in the room.

His strength is on par with Superman's hers isn't. Jonn's also been stated as the most powerful member of the team. If you want to go by one statement then you bet your ass I am going to bring up another statement in favor of Martian.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't mind the 'stronger' comment. But I think its pretty obvious that Wonder Woman is more durable and goes the distance with far more of her opponents than J'onn does.
I disagree.
Originally posted by Konton
So you're going with a gut feeling/preconceived notions over on panel feats?
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I am going with common sense. I don't need to see a lot of feats from WB Hulk to know he is stronger than WW Hulk. By your logic since he only had one feat to his name then WW Hulk was greater than WB Hulk.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Doomsday disagrees.
DD's an idiot.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Haha yea. John doesn't have a.....good track record against Doomsday. He really took a pounding even back in DoS.
Orion was also dealt with in under 60 seconds but I guarantee most give him odds over Diana.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His strength is on par with Superman's hers isn't. Jonn's also been stated as the most powerful member of the team.

Zatanna, Superman, Hal, etc. have also all been stated to be the most powerful members of the team at one point or another.

Originally posted by -Pr-
maybe, but i don't rate Bill as being as dangerous as Thor, tbh.
Reason? BRB seem to hold back less

When I saw BRB just tanking Stardust's most destructive force blasts I began seeing him as somewhat more threatening.

People just like big explosions and cosmic cheese feats.

When Stormbreaker came out, Bill was like god to some people.

Originally posted by Konton
Zatanna, Superman, Hal, etc. have also all been stated to be the most powerful members of the team at one point or another.
Has Diana?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Has Diana?

You fail to see my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His strength is on par with Superman's hers isn't.

Sure it is.

Superman's stronger than either, but they're both clearly not all that far behind.

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