Superman(Sundipped) VS Thor( Warrior Madness)

Originally posted by Spire
So your argument is even though Superman is powered by sun which endows him with strength, speed, HV, etc., after Superman 'submersed himself' in the source of his power, only his strength and durability was increased, and for some strange illogical reason none of his other powers(which the sun gives him) increased at all.

Further, your reasoning/proof/argument/delusion is that he only moved warworld, so it must be true.

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Do you have reading comprehension problems? Where did I say his speed was not increased? I said he did not go zipping around using his super speed. He relied on his raw power and strength as he simply plowed through anything he met. What the hell is so difficult to understand? 😕

Warworld is as big as Pluto was it not? The only reason that's impressive considering he was apparently amped was because of it's own engines working against him. And that definitely relies more on his flight and strength than it does on him simply having super speed.

You keep trying for some reason to come off correct while insulting me and in turn end up sounding like a condensing a-hole who just makes himself look stupid.

You guys agree then fight anywayweird

Must be some kind of masochistic foreplay.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you have reading comprehension problems? Where did I say his speed was not increased? I said he did not go zipping around using his super speed. He relied on his raw power and strength as he simply plowed through anything he met. What the hell is so difficult to understand? 😕

Warworld is as big as Pluto was it not? The only reason that's impressive considering he was apparently amped was because of it's own engines working against him. And that definitely relies more on his flight and strength than it does on him simply having super speed.

You keep trying for some reason to come off correct while insulting me and in turn end up sounding like a condensing a-hole who just makes himself look stupid.

1. Its obvious that was what you were implying. If you want to switch it up and go with Superman flies into Thor and kills that's fine too. 👆

2. If you recognize that Superman is boosted entirely how in hell does it become a slugfest?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You keep trying for some reason to come off correct while insulting me and in turn end up sounding like a condensing a-hole who just makes himself look stupid.

Lol... irony...

Originally posted by Spire
1. Its obvious that was what you were implying. If you want to switch it up and go with Superman flies into Thor and kills that's fine too. 👆

2. If you recognize that Superman is boosted entirely how in hell does it become a slugfest?

1) No that was not what I was implying at all. No where did I ever say that Superman's speed was not amped. Do not put words in my mouth. I simply stated that he relied on his strength and power more than he did on speed which was the case. I don't see C.I.S off do you? Lol. 👇

2) Because C.I.S is still in effect. What is so difficult to understand pray tell? Superman in that mindset was a brute. Ripping shit apart. He didn't speed blitz anyone or use his speed for anything more than travel as I recall.

Originally posted by Spire
Lol... irony...

I'd thought you'd like that.

But seriously, you need to hop off my dick. Its like you argue with me for the sake of arguing and it's getting annoying.

Originally posted by the ninjak
You guys agree then fight anywayweird

Must be some kind of masochistic foreplay.

There is more to it than that.

He knows he can't give Thor the win. So instead he put on his denial hat and is trying to downplay things.

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Even though I clearly said Superman would win, his still not satisfied because I said it would end up being a slug fest which is more than likely.

Man, you Superman fans, are worse than Hulk fans.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) No that was not what I was implying at all. No where did I ever say that Superman's speed was not amped. Do not put words in my mouth. I simply stated that he relied on his strength and power more than he did on speed which was the case. I don't see C.I.S off do you? Lol. 👇

Sorry, but the fact that you think its a slugfest says otherwise.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

2) Because C.I.S is still in effect. What is so difficult to understand pray tell? Superman in that mindset was a brute. Ripping shit apart. He didn't speed blitz anyone or use his speed for anything more than travel as I recall.

This isn't herochat where Superman is at whatever exact level/showing needed to lose. CIS has nothing to do with full capacity.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I'd thought you'd like that.

But seriously, you need to hop off my dick. Its like you argue with me for the sake of arguing and it's getting annoying.

😐

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Even though I clearly said Superman would win, his still not satisfied because I said it would end up being a slug fest which is more than likely.

Man, you Superman fans, are worse than Hulk fans.

Even when its ridiculiously obvious who wins, how and why, you still put on your denial hat.

0% chance it comes down to a slugfest.

Originally posted by Spire
Sorry, but the fact that you think its a slugfest says otherwise.

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So just because I don't think Superman speed blitzes Thor and simply uses his raw power and strength which is exactly what he did during that arc, somehow translates into me thinking that Superman's speed isn't increased either?

Originally posted by Spire
This isn't herochat where Superman is at whatever exact level/showing needed to lose. CIS has nothing to do with full capacity.

No it's not Herochat but this isn't CBR either, where speed is the most important factor ever. No but it's in play just like full capacity is.

Not too long ago even Raoul got into an argument with a poster where he clarified that Superman would mostly slug it out, which is exactly what Superman does.

All Superman did in that arc was rely on his raw power and strength which is what he will do here. For whatever reason, you got into your head that somehow Superman is going to be pulling blitzes where the chances are very low in this situation unless C.I.S is off, which in that case I agree, speed would be a key factor. Otherwise, even with full capacity, more than likely this would end up being a slug fest.

Superman speed blitzing in this state is as viable as Thor draining him of all of his power in his own state.

Originally posted by Spire
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Originally posted by Spire
Even when its ridiculiously obvious who wins, how and why, you still put on your denial hat.

0% chance it comes down to a slugfest.

I'm in denial because I said it would come down to a slug fest? Christ you're an idiot.

Okay, post scans of Superman using his speed to blitz someone in combat in the state he was in during Our Worlds At War. Heck, post scans of him using his speed for something more other than a means for travel which is all I recall him doing with his speed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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So just because I don't think Superman speed blitzes Thor and simply uses his raw power and strength which is exactly what he did during that arc, somehow translates into me thinking that Superman's speed isn't increased either?

No it's not Herochat but this isn't CBR either, where speed is the most important factor ever. No but it's in play just like full capacity is.

Not too long ago even Raoul got into an argument with a poster where he clarified that Superman would mostly slug it out, which is exactly what Superman does.

Superman speed blitzing in this state is as viable as Thor draining him of all of his power in his own state.

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And you know what? That's absolutely fine. All I stated was a superspeed punch.

It is Mardi Gras so I won't pick on you two lovebirdsstrawberries

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm in denial because I said it would come down to a slug fest? Christ you're an idiot.

Okay, post scans of Superman using his speed to blitz someone in combat in the state he was in during Our Worlds At War. Heck, post scans of him using his speed for something more other than a means for travel which is all I recall him doing with his speed.

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Yes you are in denial because you think it would come down to a slugfest.

Also, you're doing a really shitty job trying to wiggle your way out of it by trying to throw in the whole speedblitz argument.

Originally posted by Spire
And you know what? That's absolutely fine. All I stated was a superspeed punch.

Eh? I posted Superman wins, and you with your man crush on me somehow thought it was necessary to start an argument where one not needed to exist by stating that it being a slug fest is laughable and Superman one shots Thor with a super speed punch to the back of the head except it being a slug fest is the most likely scenario. You went on further pulling shit out of your ass by claiming that I stated Superman's speed would not be amped either, which I never once said.

Originally posted by Spire
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Yes you are in denial because you think it would come down to a slugfest.

Also, you're doing a really shitty job trying to wiggle your way out of it by trying to throw in the whole speedblitz argument.

You mean it being a slug fest like it almost always ends up being with Superman, even against bricks? On top of everything else, this Superman seemed to rely on his strength and raw power more than usual compared to how he was acting previously in Our Worlds at War speed blitzing Imperiex Probes and the rest after the Mongul training. In this state, his more like a flying brick than anything. At least from what we've actually seen. He doesn't actually need to rely on anything else.

I'm not trying to wiggle my way out of anything. I simply asked you to post scans or instances of this Superman blitzing with his speed etc. since that's what you claimed. Superman ending this fight with one super speed punch to the back of Thor's head.

If you think Superman will blitz, then you might as well accept the fact that Thor will instantly drain all of his energy thus winning. Which is about as likely as a speed blitz from Clark in this state.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Eh? I posted Superman wins, and you with your man crush on me somehow thought it was necessary to start an argument where one not needed to exist by stating that it being a slug fest is laughable and Superman one shots Thor with a super speed punch to the back of the head except it being a slug fest is the most likely scenario. You went on further pulling shit out of your ass by claiming that I stated Superman's speed would not be amped either, which I never once said.

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You did imply that and you were trying to limit Superman to only strength and durability mattering and its somehow a slugfest.

You didn't imply it and you agree its not a slugfest and this fight is lopsided with 1 or 2 really strong really fast punches ending this fight.

Which is it?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean it being a slug fest like it almost always ends up being with Superman, even against bricks? On top of everything else, this Superman seemed to rely on his strength and raw power more than usual compared to how he was acting previously in Our Worlds at War speed blitzing Imperiex Probes and the rest after the Mongul training. In this state, his more like a flying brick than anything. At least from what we've actually seen. He doesn't actually need to rely on anything else.

I'm not trying to wiggle my way out of anything. I simply asked you to post scans or instances of this Superman blitzing with his speed etc. since that's what you claimed. Superman ending this fight with one super speed punch to the back of Thor's head.

If you think Superman will blitz, then you might as well accept the fact that Thor will instantly drain all of his energy thus winning. Which is about as likely as a speed blitz from Clark in this state.

This is sad.

A fast punch isn't a blitz.

Originally posted by Spire
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You did imply that and you were trying to limit Superman to only strength and durability mattering and its somehow a slugfest.

You didn't imply it and you agree its not a slugfest and this fight is lopsided with 1 or 2 really strong really fast punches ending this fight.

Which is it?

Neither.

I'm not limiting him. It's he who limited himself as it was he who relied on solely his strength and durability in that state. Hence why chances are it would be a slug fest. More so than Superman in his regular state in my opinion.

In conclusion this is a slug fest, with Superman having the ability to use his super speed but not relying on it which is EXACTLY what he did. It's the same case for Thor being able to drain Superman but not using it.

In these mind sets they seem to be more brick like than usual.

What exactly do you not understand?

Originally posted by Spire
This is sad.

A fast punch isn't a blitz.

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You stated that this would not be a slug fest, and Clark would end it with a super speed punch to the back of Thor's head. Sounded like a blitz as you made it seem Thor would not even let off an attack, before Superman circles around him (They start .5 kilometers away and facing each other according to the rules.) and puts him down.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Neither.

I'm not limiting him. It's he who limited himself as it was he who relied on solely his strength and durability in that state. Hence why chances are it would be a slug fest. More so than Superman in his regular state in my opinion.

In conclusion this is a slug fest, with Superman having the ability to use his super speed but not relying on it which is EXACTLY what he did. It's the same case for Thor being able to drain Superman but not using it.

In these mind sets they seem to be more brick like than usual.

What exactly do you not understand?

Oh ok, Superman can't throw a fast punch.

Oh, and Thor can't drain him because Thor is unconscious.