Who is Scientist Supreme in the DCU?

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Originally posted by Desaad
He's a god. It's a bit like saying the Celestials should be on the list.

Meh. Most Current Metron I suppose, but Classic Metron was basically just a super-smart alien with a cool chair.

Nah, the New Gods were always beyond "Aliens", at least in their own series'. Guy built the Worlogog.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I vote for Alexander Luthor, Jr.

What has he done?

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Originally posted by Desaad
That sort of fevered, almost unstable, need to create, to build, to achieve wonders - the criteria by which he was chosen for his role as scientist supreme - most accurately characterizes Will Magnus. They even both have history of mental instability.

Steel represents the Stark-like desire to enact social change through the power of innovation. He's about transforming the global community through his creations, more than he is about the love of creation itself.

Ray Palmer is a professor and an adventurer, and really values the understanding of a concept or principal more than he values the creation of a device or object. His technology, his innovations, tend to serve as tools for further information gathering, exploration, learning.

In terms of who has created the most impressive stuff? T.O. Morrow probably takes the cake, but Atom and Niles Caulder give him a run.

TO Morrow has created better stuff than Will? Like what?

Rip.

Vril Dox should be on that list though.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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With tech he built?

Originally posted by Galan007
Rip.

I know he has created the device that held Mr. Mind. Anything else?

Desaad
Less specialized than you might think. Besides building Time Machines, Ray Palmer's greatest feat is probably overcoming the Hourman virus, which was 853rd Cen technology. And Caulder has done everything from creating Nanomachines and robots to time machines.

Ray identified the virus, but they built a solar computer with 853rd century tech and aid from the Justice Legion Alpha to actually cure it.

Originally posted by Q99
Ray identified the virus, but they built a solar computer with 853rd century tech and aid from the Justice Legion Alpha to actually cure it.

No, Ray cracked it. He had the cure before Solaris was built. It would have taken time to manufacture a cure, certainly more time than Solaris just sucking up it's programming, but it was written right there on the page.


Originally posted by Prep-Man
With tech he built?

Yeah, Infinite Crisis, using the Anti Monitor's corpse as I recall.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
TO Morrow has created better stuff than Will? Like what?

Like his Time Machine/super computer "Everware". I consider that more wide-reaching than anything Magnus has built, though as I said when it comes to creating artificial souls, Magnus seems to have the edge. His Metal Men are certainly more human than, say, Red Tornado.

Ray, but why is Batman even on this list 😐?

Because he's one of the smartest guys in the DCU, and despite not specializing in tech he's built teleporters and helped fix cyborgs and what not.

Batman is a contender for smartest egg on DC Earth but he's not close to the greatest scientist. He's a bit like Sherlock Holmes, far too focused on criminology to pursue the other intellectual ventures beyond mere relative expertise. To paraphrase Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: "Science lost a great thinker when [Batman] chose to focus on the study of crime"

He's MORE of a polymath than that, but he suffers from the same issues that Mr. Terrific does. He's focused on literature, martial arts, criminology, chemistry, biology, spirtuality, etc as he is with engineering and physics.

The sheer number of appearances he has means he's shown himself to be at the top of each of those fields though -- he's not creating pocket universes or building time machines, but he's created teleporters and artificial intelligence/surveillance systems (Brother Eye).

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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No other scientist could replicate the same feat. Even Hank Pym can't.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
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No other scientist could replicate the same feat. Even Hank Pym can't.

What about Reed? Didn't you say he messed with the Multiverse, too?

DAMN! I forgot to put Anarky on the list!! He deserves to be on the list more than Batman or even Mr. Terrific. The dude is crazy smart.

Originally posted by Desaad
Like his Time Machine/super computer "Everware". I consider that more wide-reaching than anything Magnus has built, though as I said when it comes to creating artificial souls, Magnus seems to have the edge. His Metal Men are certainly more human than, say, Red Tornado.

Wasn't the Everware in the LAST Metal Men series? Exactly what could that do?