Originally posted by SuperherovandalWe haven't seen Nekron lose yet and we saw him easily dismiss the Spectre. He was still affected by characters in the stories and feel Nekron can definitely affect him.
He actually pwned the spectre and the radiant and was capable of eating the actual stories...etc.etc
Thanos' unique nature and what not to me make it perfectly clear why he has no hold over Thanos.
Anyway, Mandrakk will eat the whole story whil Nekron will be chilling, because he will have no objections.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We haven't seen Nekron lose yet and we saw him easily dismiss the Spectre. He was still affected by characters in the stories and feel Nekron can definitely affect him.
What does it matter if Nekron has lost or not, far lesser characters than him have yet to lose. The woman in my sig has never lost (Bulleteer) but would she be an issue to Mandrakk based solely on the fact that she hasn't lost?
Nekron would just be another story from the "germ" worlds that Mandrakk (Dax Novu or Rox Ogama) would consume.
He might have a chance against Ogama, but Dax Novu would annhilate him.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Nekron would shitstomp Thanos and Mandrakk wouldn't even bother.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's under his power to brings back the dead. Though he doesn't start with the army, he can quickly raise one. An army that will include Thanos.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos would have the Cosmic Armor built and ready to go before he ever decided to engage Mandrakk in a battle. Thanos' preparedness > Batman's. 😎That's as stupid as Takion being able to mess with Thor's power simply because in DC everything comes from the Source and Takion is of that. Quan's right to call you out on this. It's wrong.
But it's his powerset. Otherwise all the IG vs.. threads are pointless too. Nekron's powers are kryptonite to certain characters.
Originally posted by Allankles
But it's his powerset. Otherwise all the IG vs.. threads are pointless too. Nekron's powers are kryptonite to certain characters.
The IG comparison doesn't work at all. Unless you want to go ahead and acknowledge that Darkseid's Omega Powers won't work against any Marvel characters because in the shared universe there is no Omega Force or Alpha Force or Source.
Originally posted by Allankles
What does it matter if Nekron has lost or not, far lesser characters than him have yet to lose. The woman in my sig has never lost (Bulleteer) but would she be an issue to Mandrakk based solely on the fact that she hasn't lost?Nekron would just be another story from the "germ" worlds that Mandrakk (Dax Novu or Rox Ogama) would consume.
He might have a chance against Ogama, but Dax Novu would annhilate him.
What I find funny is the double-standard.
When you put Nekron against Thanos you will get the reply "What battle feats Nekron has" "Guardians are nothing and Spectre was a special case".
However, if you put Mandrakk against Nekron you get this response "Nekron hasn't lost and he dismissed the Spectre.
Somethings wrong, really.
Originally posted by EnyalusThat's not an argument for why it shouldn't work that way. The powerset isn't altered to make the match more fair.
You using that ability of Nekron's give Nekron an autowin versus anyone who's ever died, so that they have zero chance before the match even starts.
Originally posted by EnyalusThe argument is that everybody's powers work at optimum efficiency despite the lack of a Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, or the dubiousness regarding whether Cosmic Awareness would work in DC (examples, obviously)
The IG comparison doesn't work at all. Unless you want to go ahead and acknowledge that Darkseid's Omega Powers won't work against any Marvel characters because in the shared universe there is no Omega Force or Alpha Force or Source.
The spirit of the rule is that people don't lose powers based on locale. The same applies to Nekron.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Sorry, but thats still completely idiotic. The "IG vs whomever" threads give the other combatant a fair chance. The IG's power works fine, and so does the other opponent. You using that ability of Nekron's give Nekron an autowin versus anyone who's ever died, so that they have zero chance before the match even starts. Even if that's not the way it works in their native universe (Thanos' case).The IG comparison doesn't work at all. Unless you want to go ahead and acknowledge that Darkseid's Omega Powers won't work against any Marvel characters because in the shared universe there is no Omega Force or Alpha Force or Source.
But I'm arguing that all powers work according to how they're portrayed in their respective universe. Nekron's powers work according to their portrayal in the comics in a neutral setting, the same for the Omega Force or Odin Force or whatever.
So he will get an autowin in those scenarios unless the character has a definitive defense within their own powerset, or if the character is simply above Nekron in the cosmic hierachy within Nekron's universe or otherwise.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
The argument is that everybody's powers work at optimum efficiency despite the lack of a Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, or the dubiousness regarding whether Cosmic Awareness would work in DC (examples, obviously)The spirit of the rule is that people don't lose powers based on locale. The same applies to Nekron.
Originally posted by Allankles
But I'm arguing that all powers work according to how they're portrayed in their respective universe. Nekron's powers work according to their portrayal in the comics in a neutral setting, the same for the Omega Force or Odin Force or whatever.So he will get an autowin in those scenarios unless the character has a definitive defense within their own powerset, or if the character is simply above Nekron in the cosmic hierachy within Nekron's universe or otherwise.
Thats the way it should be, don't know whats so hard to get... Its alright to use Marvel feats but not ok to use DC in that setting?? I see bias..
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
What I find funny is the double-standard.When you put Nekron against Thanos you will get the reply "What battle feats Nekron has" "Guardians are nothing and Spectre was a special case".
However, if you put Mandrakk against Nekron you get this response "Nekron hasn't lost and he dismissed the Spectre.
Somethings wrong, really.
Tbh I don't really like Nekron's character, but his powers are difficult to get around.
Originally posted by Allankles
Tbh I don't really like Nekron's character, but his powers are difficult to get around.
He is the Villain of his "Crisis" or event. Though like DS in FC he will be replaced by AM i guess with an guest appearance by Superboy Prime. Oh and maybe this time Superman won't save the day, maybe someone else gets the credit. Though i doubt it will be Sinestro.
Mandrakk > Mandrakk-2 > Spectre + Radiant.
I also wouldn't place Nekron above Mandrakk, not even close.
Originally posted by Allankles
So Mandrakk jobbed to the ultimate defensive weapon? A weapon he created himself eons ago before he knew he would be the bad guy?And Ogama jobbed to Nix Uotan, a fellow Monitor with even greater powers of reality manipulation?
Nix didn't blast Ogama with heat-vision for the setup or finish him off with a green pointy stick for the one-two-three...actually that is how the 'ultimate defensive weapon' stopped V1...only the stick wasn't green...