Nekron vs Mandrakk

Nekron's power has to work in a match whether people like it or not. Under the rules, the characters are in a neutral universe where ALL OF THEIR POWERS will work like it their original universe. So even though you aren't taking their powers away, your are removing the people they can affect.

If Nekron's power and ability don't work in this neutral universe, then why does the power of an IG user work. IF I remember correctly, if it's used in another universe, it's has no power. SO why should it be able to work 100% in another universe that isn't it's original universe.

Like Allankles, and Kevdude stated already.

Originally posted by theICONiac
Nix didn't blast Ogama with heat-vision for the setup or finish him off with a green pointy stick for the one-two-three...actually that is how the 'ultimate defensive weapon' stopped V1...only the stick wasn't green...

Originally posted by theICONiac
Nix didn't blast Ogama with heat-vision for the setup or finish him off with a green pointy stick for the one-two-three...actually that is how the 'ultimate defensive weapon' stopped V1...only the stick wasn't green...

Heatvision is just another name for an energy blast, do you expect a cosmic showdown without energy blasts? And Superman/Ultraman were in the cosmic armor, and all it did ultimately was make Novu fall into the endless Overvoid (where he ceased to be), it's not like it disintergrated him.

The green pointy stick having an effect on a cosmic vampire was precisely the result of Uotan's reality manipulation.

Nix thought up the scenario, the army of God (the Pax Dei), the new Forever People, the GL's and the Supermen of the multiverse converging on the vampire.

Vampire gets spiked with a cosmic stake, that was Nix Uotan all over.

Originally posted by Enyalus
There's a difference between power and ability. No one's taking Nekron's power away, or trying to lower his power level because there is no emotional spectrum/darkness/unifying light thing in the Marvel Universe. But giving him an ability that's really only there as a plot device and makes zero sense (lets face it, you cannot be alive but dead at the same time, schrodinger's cat 101) and shouldn't actually matter in one-on-one combat....that's not right, IMO. It has nothing to do with his chances in a 1v1 battle, pitting power and skill against power and skill.

Desafortunadamente, thats not how the rules work.

Ah well. Nekron loses to Mandrakk until further notice. And beats Thanos without anykind of cheap black ring of doom attaching to Thanos' finger.

Originally posted by Survivor19
So far the only corpse that wasn't raised by the Black Ring was Dove's, IIRC
Thanos's nature and whatnot won't protect his corpse from becoming a host for Black Lantern, iMO.

Anyway, Mandrakk will eat the whole story whil Nekron will be chilling, because he will have no objections.

Originally posted by Allankles
What does it matter if Nekron has lost or not, far lesser characters than him have yet to lose. The woman in my sig has never lost (Bulleteer) but would she be an issue to Mandrakk based solely on the fact that she hasn't lost?

Nekron would just be another story from the "germ" worlds that Mandrakk (Dax Novu or Rox Ogama) would consume.

He might have a chance against Ogama, but Dax Novu would annhilate him.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
That's not an argument for why it shouldn't work that way. The powerset isn't altered to make the match more fair.
The argument is that everybody's powers work at optimum efficiency despite the lack of a Speed Force in the Marvel Universe, or the dubiousness regarding whether Cosmic Awareness would work in DC (examples, obviously)

The spirit of the rule is that people don't lose powers based on locale. The same applies to Nekron.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Nekron's power has to work in a match whether people like it or not. Under the rules, the characters are in a neutral universe where ALL OF THEIR POWERS will work like it their original universe. So even though you aren't taking their powers away, your are removing the people they can affect.

If Nekron's power and ability don't work in this neutral universe, then why does the power of an IG user work. IF I remember correctly, if it's used in another universe, it's has no power. SO why should it be able to work 100% in another universe that isn't it's original universe.

Like Allankles, and Kevdude stated already.

I'd put Nekron over SC AM. When he gave a SMALL portion of his power to Krona, Krona killed a bunch of Guardians with ease. And this wasn't even Nekron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree entirely but you can think whatever you wish to think. My case is more likely.

Because until we see a character go down for the most part or actually get in a handful of fights and demonstrate a range of abilities it's guesswork. I get that Nekron is powerful but need to see a little more in how he loses to know the entire picture.

Yes, but his powers to take over the dead only applies to dc characters as they died in his universe. We don't set the Source as the a shared power source among both universe and we don't act like Thanos is a fallen dc character and ignore his history and speculate it will work on him.

Wrong. His powers still work but we don't change characters histories so the powers can affect him. Thanos didn't die in the dcu and it only affects those who have.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
What about Thano's history wouldn't allow Nekron to take over him? that he's a consort to Death? that has no relevance in a forum battle... and neither does this conversation about Nekron vs Thanos so why doesn't everyone get back on topic before I call a mod???? If you need to discuss this do it in the Nekron vs Thanos thread I just made.

I answered your question and please for future reference don't ask me any questions regarding this if you don't want them answered.

As for the thread I feel at this point Nekron wins.

Originally posted by Allankles
Heatvision is just another name for an energy blast, do you expect a cosmic showdown without energy blasts?

Well, it was alluded to several times that Superman's HV was akin to sunlight (as Mandrakk was a 'vampire'😉 so do you really think Iron Man's repulsor rays would have the same effect?

Originally posted by Allankles
And Superman/Ultraman were in the cosmic armor, and all it did ultimately was make Novu fall into the endless Overvoid (where he ceased to be), it's not like it disintergrated him.

No, but the combination of HV and impalement delivered the 'fatal' blow. If not, why didn't Mandrakk simply fly out of the void?

Originally posted by Allankles
The green pointy stick having an effect on a cosmic vampire was precisely the result of Uotan's reality manipulation.

Nix thought up the scenario, the army of God (the Pax Dei), the new Forever People, the GL's and the Supermen of the multiverse converging on the vampire.

Vampire gets spiked with a cosmic stake, that was Nix Uotan all over.

I dunno...thought it was 'Superman's story' that was responsible for beating V1 and V2. If that is the case why did the Green Lantern's deliver the killing blow?

Nix should have gathered all the alternate reality Supermen, and formed a chorus line:

Nix: Ok guys, from the top! A-one, a-two, a-one-two-three-

Supermen: SOMEBODY SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEE!
I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DO IT
JUST SAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Now THAT would have been the power of Superman's story stopping Mandrakk! He would have melted like a snowball in the Human Torches' @$$!

baha