Originally posted by Galan007I think the "same basic composition" has to do with the vibranium core nature of the Redeemer armor and just that. I don't think the implication is that Ross' Redeemer armor had the same composition as Cap's shield.
^ Samson said the armor had the same basic composition at Cap's shield, with a vibranium core to absorb impact.Regardless, It didn't look like Rulk had any trouble shredding through the armor, or it's core. To me, at least... 😕
More importantly, there are plenty of instances where something with a vibranium core have been shattered by pure force/impact.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0That's how I read it as well.
I think the "same basic composition" has to do with the vibranium core nature of the Redeemer armor and just that. I don't think the implication is that Ross' Redeemer armor had the same composition as Cap's shield.
Even if you read it as implying something on a chemical level, the term "basic" implies that its still not exactly the same as Cap's shield, and therefore not proof enough that Rulk is capable, IMO.
Originally posted by Warlord
wasn't that retconed?
The adamantium bending? If you say so, I believe you. I still think he can eventually break the shield, because as far as I know his powerset and the absence of an upper limit strengh in it weren't retconned. So he can become strong enough to do it depending on his emotional state.
If you want a power level he has already reached on panel and not just the potential for it, then I find it plausible that world breaker hulk might be able to do it.
Nah, Hulk isn't breaking the Shield. I doubt any writer would have him do that no matter how angry he is unless it was stated he was amped to some degree.
Thor's dented Adamantium (This hasn't been retconned as far as I know.) and he isn't doing anything to Captain America's shield either. Not at least without an amp.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah, Hulk isn't breaking the Shield. I doubt any writer would have him do that no matter how angry he is unless it was stated he was amped to some degree.Thor's dented Adamantium (This hasn't been retconned as far as I know.) and he isn't doing anything to Captain America's shield either. Not at least without an amp.
Whether or not writers would do it is a different matter and usually not the point of these threads.
With the hulk's potentially infinite strengh it is reasonable to assume he can do it on his own. Thor might need a boost because he has upper limits built into him, while the hulk doesn't.
Originally posted by 753
Whether or not writers would do it is a different matter and usually not the point of these threads.With the hulk's potentially infinite strengh it is reasonable to assume he can do it on his own. Thor might need a boost because he has upper limits built into him, while the hulk doesn't.
The writers would not let him do it, because he cannot do it. At least not as far as we have seen. You need to have power on the high end of the Skyfather spectrum as far as I can tell to damage that shield, and the Hulk has never reached that level, and whether he can reach that level is doubtful. Marvel has different levels of infinite apparently. The word gets thrown around too much.
Thor and his apparent built in limits have allowed him to match the Hulk in a contest of strength for entire hours.