Originally posted by h1a8Based on what? You can't rule out showings simply because you disagree with them. Explain yourself why they were.
Actually if you read Blood and Thunder all the characters were fighting stupidly against Thor and thus makes the fights invalid for evidence.Also, it is not who you beat but how u beat them that proves something.
The way Thor won showed no extra strength over his normal self. He just connected more.
It was stated he was tapping into the gem and made it clear he was a much bigger threat with the power gem. It flat out stated it. You can't even follow along with the writer's intent of the story so it makes sense why you are always off.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what? You can't rule out showings simply because you disagree with them. Explain yourself why they were.It was stated he was tapping into the gem and made it clear he was a much bigger threat with the power gem. It flat out stated it. You can't even follow along with the writer's intent of the story so it makes sense why you are always off.
Not only do I disagree with them I'm also right.
It only stated he was tapping into the gem when he was encased and when Strange and Warlock was beaming him.
Writer's intent was never shown to how much more powerful Thor over his normal self. Hell, I think a normal relentless Thor is equal.
Originally posted by h1a8
SS for one.
Based on what? Besides, if they fought stupidly (debatable) than it's considered CIS on their part, which is the norm for forum battles. Thor brawling the Hulk instead of using his wide and expansive level of versatility is likewise considered CIS. Just because they didn't do what you wanted them to do, it's invalid?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on what? Besides, if they fought stupidly (debatable) than it's considered CIS on their part, which is the norm for forum battles. Thor brawling the Hulk instead of using his wide and expansive level of versatility is likewise considered CIS. Just because they didn't do what you wanted them to do, it's invalid?
No it's not CIS at all. If that is the case then Superman beats SS 10/10.
Your analogy is off. SS fought stupidity not because of the powers he choose to use but the fact that he was missing a floating still in space target.
It happened for the sake of the story and not because SS was that stupid.
Originally posted by h1a8So unless they actually tell us every single time he taps into the gem we abandon common sense which basically tells us he used it the entire time and it was only noted twice when it needed to be?
Not only do I disagree with them I'm also right.It only stated he was tapping into the gem when he was encased and when Strange and Warlock was beaming him.
Writer's intent was never shown to how much more powerful Thor over his normal self. Hell, I think a normal relentless Thor is equal.
Writer's intent showed him more be far more effective than his normal self and if you read Thor you'd understand this but since you don't read comics you come here and make a fool of yourself telling us your opinions.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So unless they actually tell us every single time he taps into the gem we abandon common sense which basically tells us he used it the entire time and it was only noted twice when it needed to be?Writer's intent showed him more be far more effective than his normal self and if you read Thor you'd understand this but since you don't read comics you come here and make a fool of yourself telling us your opinions.
I didn't say Thor wasn't stronger. I'm saying he wasn't shown to be that much stronger. I give him about 5% extra strength at the most. I think that is fair from what we've seen.
Note: Feats prove strength, not speculation. Thor was only effective due to the sillyness of the other characters, not because he had more skill.
Thor connecting more with his blows is attribute to skill and luck and not strength.
Originally posted by h1a8Feats aren't the end all be all proof and considering where the story was going it's obvious just because he didn't have to lift anything immeasurable up he obviously could have. You should try to look at these things from a common sense standpoint as most feats apply. We know savage hulk is stronger than prof hulk regardless of whose feats are more impressive.
I didn't say Thor wasn't stronger. I'm saying he wasn't shown to be that much stronger. I give him about 5% extra strength at the most. I think that is fair from what we've seen.Note: Feats prove strength, not speculation. Thor was only effective due to the sillyness of the other characters, not because he had more skill.
Thor connecting more with his blows is attribute to skill and luck and not strength.
Originally posted by h1a8Based on what?
Yes he can but:
He would lose 100000000/10.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats aren't the end all be all proof and considering where the story was going it's obvious just because he didn't have to lift anything immeasurable up he obviously could have. You should try to look at these things from a common sense standpoint as most feats apply. We know savage hulk is stronger than prof hulk regardless of whose feats are more impressive. Based on what?
No Hulk is stronger than any other Hulk. It depends on anger-rage level.
Now average Hulk A can be stronger than average Hulk B.
Hulk is not a good character to judge strength against unless he has performed a quantifiable feat in the same story.
I disagree that Thanos is even stronger than Thor. Thanos might have more power than Thor but strength, I would either equal or less.
Sentry is a different story though. I see Void easily beating Thanos alone. Especially if he has Sentry's new mindset (like against MM).
Originally posted by h1a8You're so wise
No Hulk is stronger than any other Hulk. It depends on anger-rage level.
Now average Hulk A can be stronger than average Hulk B.Hulk is not a good character to judge strength against unless he has performed a quantifiable feat in the same story.
I disagree that Thanos is even stronger than Thor. Thanos might have more power than Thor but strength, I would either equal or less.
Sentry is a different story though. I see Void easily beating Thanos alone. Especially if he has Sentry's new mindset (like against MM).
i would like to hear from quanchi how can thanos beat up void sentry if as was stated by quanchi in sentry vs superman thread "sentry cant be put down he will just reform back" and also you said sentry can destroy superman due to moleculas rape right? so the same thing would work against thanos as well since thanos got less control of mulecules then MM
Originally posted by h1a8Based off what? You basically throw your opinion around without anyting to back it up and you do it quite often.
No Hulk is stronger than any other Hulk. It depends on anger-rage level.
Now average Hulk A can be stronger than average Hulk B.Hulk is not a good character to judge strength against unless he has performed a quantifiable feat in the same story.
I disagree that Thanos is even stronger than Thor. Thanos might have more power than Thor but strength, I would either equal or less.
Sentry is a different story though. I see Void easily beating Thanos alone. Especially if he has Sentry's new mindset (like against MM).
Originally posted by levianoelForceblock.
i would like to hear from quanchi how can thanos beat up void sentry if as was stated by quanchi in sentry vs superman thread "sentry cant be put down he will just reform back" and also you said sentry can destroy superman due to moleculas rape right? so the same thing would work against thanos as well since thanos got less control of mulecules then MM