Thanos vs. Thor, Brb and Herc (h2h only)

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus8 pages
Originally posted by Enyalus
Not sure how either one of us is going to convince the other of their opinion on this. There's no proof either way.

It just never seemed to me that Thanos is that much stronger than Thor. I’ve honestly not seen anything from him physically speaking that would put him that high up the food chain outside of say that single panel where he matches Tyrant (Which isn’t clear cut with the orb being in play.), but even then, Thor has his own ridiculous physical highs like bringing Surtur with the Twilight Sword to his knees with a blow among other shit so it’s not like Thor doesn’t have high end feats either. Pimp slapping and head knocking is great and all, but don’t really mean that much and not something that I would put past Thor as accomplishing as well based on what his done.

Originally posted by Enyalus
During IW 4, Thor's Mjolnir blow stalemated Thanos' fist. That's it. A far cry from "Thor stalemated Thanos." I'm talking about Quasar 38, where Thor is winding up Mjolnir right behind Thanos. You think he's not going to engage him? Especially when we see him engaging Thanos in IW 4?

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I simply stated what I saw, which was them trade blows evenly. You claimed that Thanos took on all those 4 at the same time when we never actually see them do so. If anyone has stated something that was a far cry from what we actually saw happen, it was you.

We never see Thor actually engage him in Quasar #38. We don’t see Thor actually engage anyone in that issue. He was probably still recovering from the lingering doubts of disobeying Captain America’s last orders at the time, which was to surround them in that instance. Not surprising as like I said, he was not eager to fight as the other three. We can’t assume that Thor automatically engaged him along with the other 4. It seems just as likely that he did so on his own. The only time we see Thor engage Thanos was alone in Infinity Wars #4. Nowhere do we see Thor engage Thanos in either Quasar #38 or Fantastic Four #369. In the latter though, Thor starts to square off against Thanos with Hercules watching while Thing and Hulk are busy, so that’s more than likely the prelude to what happens in Infinity Wars #4. You also see Thor and Thanos stalemate one on one in Wonder Man #14.

This further supports the fact that they engaged each other alone which just seems likely. I really don’t see why you would think Thanos engaged all 4 at the same time, when almost everything points to the contrary.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes. On the side that was fighting against the heroes. Those were the only ones left. And Warlock was fighting Quasar one-on-one in the air most of that time, so we can kind of forget about him.

Oh okay.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Nitpicking. Warlock wasn't taking on mobs of people for most of the battle. He also wasn't taking many shots. That isn't Warlock's style, afterall. He was talking about Thanos and Drax.

I don’t see how I’m nitpicking. Strong Guy says and I quote, “Incredible durability, I must say. What does it take to put you three down?” I have no idea why you would assume his referring solely to Thanos.

Originally posted by Enyalus
How many of these Mjolnir-level punches do you think these guys can handle before they end up wrecked?

Being wrecked by Mjolnir level punches? You do know that two of the three here have gone toe to toe with Thor to a stalemate on different occasions, handling the best his got (To a certain point as we know Thor can kick shit up a notch above their level apparently but almost never does so typically.). And I doubt Thor is going to be wrecked by Mjolnir level punches. He’d handle those just fine; his taken worse anyways.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, I wouldn't argue that the blow hurt Thor. But I do think he swatted him back. Kind of similar to the Odin swatting Thanos back scene.

Thanos looked more effected if I remember the scene right.

The moment the fight starts in Infinity War, Thanos's chair KO's a lot of the heroes and continues firing during the whole fight. Gamora, Moondragon & Pip take out their share of the heroes. The big guys were left to Drax and Thanos. I don't think it's accurate to say most of the heroes were left for Thanos.

Thanos wins a solid majority. being allowed to amp his punches means he can put then down really quickly with his blows and they are not taking him out anytime soon with theirs thanks to his far far higher durability.

Rage.... You agree that Hulk is a powerhouse right? He has strength feats that rival Thors right? What do you think the writer and artist were trying to convey when Thanos smashes The Hulk and Thing together and comments... You call yourselves strong.. I'm strength personified? Do you think that is trying to show he's "a little" stronger than Thor, Hulk etc etc? Nah. His whole career has shown he is far above a little stronger than Thor.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Rage.... You agree that Hulk is a powerhouse right? He has strength feats that rival Thors right? What do you think the writer and artist were trying to convey when Thanos smashes The Hulk and Thing together and comments... You call yourselves strong.. I'm strength personified? Do you think that is trying to show he's "a little" stronger than Thor, Hulk etc etc? Nah. His whole career has shown he is far above a little stronger than Thor.

He smashed Merged Hulk and Things head together. Big whoop. Thor's done stuff way beyond that.

Besides, the Merged Hulk was barely holding his own in a mock fight against Thor. And the Things, well the Thing. A severely depowered Thor has gone toe to toe with him.

If he wanted to show Thor was far below Thanos, then why did their encounters go the way they did? If he wanted to show what you said, he wouldn't have Masterson pair off and go toe to toe with Thanos.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He smashed Merged Hulk and Things head together. Big whoop. Thor's done stuff way beyond that.

Besides, the Merged Hulk was barely holding his own in a mock fight against Thor. And the Things, well the Thing. A severely depowered Thor has gone toe to toe with him.

If he wanted to show Thor was far below Thanos, then why did their encounters go the way they did? If he wanted to show what you said, he wouldn't have Masterson pair off and go toe to toe with Thanos.

Feats are different with Villians as compared to heroes friends. Thanos won't have the.. I need to save the world by lifting the Midgard Serpent feats.. What he will have are showing and narration like what I pointed out. Having one known powerhouse that engages Thor on pretty equal ground many a time and Thing.. who is The Thing but no weakling... He overpowered them both EASILY and the narration makes it even more clear... I'm strength personified... he was mocking their strength. If he's mocking Hulk's strength and yet you still don't think that applies comparatively to Thor.. then you believe Thor is that much stronger than Hulk? Nah. As far as them squaring off.. Thanos has two shotted Thor and easily. The was his weakest incarnation. Thor has NEVER even put Thanos is any kinda of danger nor come close to matching or beating Thanos. He does okay.. because he's a hero like Supes and can't just get wrecked all the time. However, unlike the jobbers at DC who always lose to supes... Thor never beats Thanos.. why do you think that is? Marvel wants to make it clear... Thor isn't in his ballpark.. hero or not. Period. There is no getting around this fact. Shoot even when Thor wasn't holding back and had the PG.. Thanos was getting the better of that fight. That speaks volumes how much stronger he is compared to Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He smashed Merged Hulk and Things head together. Big whoop. Thor's done stuff way beyond that.

Besides, the Merged Hulk was barely holding his own in a mock fight against Thor. And the Things, well the Thing. A severely depowered Thor has gone toe to toe with him.

If he wanted to show Thor was far below Thanos, then why did their encounters go the way they did? If he wanted to show what you said, he wouldn't have Masterson pair off and go toe to toe with Thanos.

If we put Masterson Thor and Hulk against Thanos without bfr who wins?

Thanos would win. What does the Thing add?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Feats are different with Villians as compared to heroes friends. Thanos won't have the.. I need to save the world by lifting the Midgard Serpent feats.. What he will have are showing and narration like what I pointed out. Having one known powerhouse that engages Thor on pretty equal ground many a time and Thing.. who is The Thing but no weakling... He overpowered them both EASILY and the narration makes it even more clear... I'm strength personified... he was mocking their strength. If he's mocking Hulk's strength and yet you still don't think that applies comparatively to Thor.. then you believe Thor is that much stronger than Hulk? Nah. As far as them squaring off.. Thanos has two shotted Thor and easily. The was his weakest incarnation. Thor has NEVER even put Thanos is any kinda of danger nor come close to matching or beating Thanos. He does okay.. because he's a hero like Supes and can't just get wrecked all the time. However, unlike the jobbers at DC who always lose to supes... Thor never beats Thanos.. why do you think that is? Marvel wants to make it clear... Thor isn't in his ballpark.. hero or not. Period. There is no getting around this fact. Shoot even when Thor wasn't holding back and had the PG.. Thanos was getting the better of that fight. That speaks volumes how much stronger he is compared to Thor.

Thor also has showings against other beings and comments about his strength. His showings against high powered beings are right up there with Thanos. Heck Thor has an instance where he tanks all of Odin's attacks when he was enraged unharmed, so even one of Thanos' best durability feats isn't above something Thor has accomplished.

He knocked the heads of Merged Hulk and the Thing together. There is nothing special about that or something beyond Thor can do. Thor physically owning Drax with the Power Gem and Maxam is much more impressive than that instance to me.

Yes, Thor pretty superior to Merged Hulk if he wanted to be.

Easily? Thor first put him on his ass. Thing hit him too, but he wouldn't have added anything. And he never two shotted him (He even comments on Thor needing a few more blasts. Few being the key word.). Heck Thor wasn't even out of it. Next time we see them, Thor's on his knee getting up.

Do I really have to post scans? I thought you read Thanos? Masterson was matching him in Infinity War. He also hurt him in Infinity Gauntlet. Thor also stalemated pre-resurrection Thanos for a brief moment. From what I've seen, in every encounter, Thor has been shown to be pretty close to Thanos physically.

You haven't been reading their encounters then. They've been portrayed to be in the same league physically pretty clearly.

How was Thanos getting the better of that fight? Do I have to post it?

He isn't much stronger than Thor. Around 25% to 50% stronger.

Anyways I have to go. I'll get back to this later.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You think the team has more power in their fists than Odin has in energy projection?

Energy projection has nothing to do with physical strikes. Thanos is a soft pillow man in the land of uber strength guys. He has a track record to prove it. Thanos can absorb and store many types of energy is why he is very resistant against energy blasts. IMO Herc alone beats him.

Also the Odin Thanos fight was PIS.

Originally posted by h1a8
Energy projection has nothing to do with physical strikes. Thanos is a soft pillow man in the land of uber strength guys. He has a track record to prove it. Thanos can absorb and store many types of energy is why he is very resistant against energy blasts. IMO Herc alone beats him.

Also the Odin Thanos fight was PIS.

This is why people laugh at your posts. Seriously go try arguing Herc against Thanos on any board and let me know which board doesn't destroy you so I can distance myself from this board.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He isn't much stronger than Thor. Around 25% to 50% stronger.

Anyways I have to go. I'll get back to this later.


When talking about physical strength, I don't understand why everybody thinks Thanos is, without any doubts, definitely stronger than Thor, Hulk and so on.

I've never seen him do a thing that made me think: wow, Hulk could never do such a thing.

Hulk has the strength feats, not Thanos. Thanos is more powerful, but stronger ? Forget it.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
When talking about physical strength, I don't understand why everybody thinks Thanos is, without any doubts, definitely stronger than Thor, Hulk and so on.

I've never seen him do a thing that made me think: wow, Hulk could never do such a thing.

Hulk has the strength feats, not Thanos. Thanos is more powerful, but stronger ? Forget it.

You ever see Hulk or Thor punch Surfer to death.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
When talking about physical strength, I don't understand why everybody thinks Thanos is, without any doubts, definitely stronger than Thor, Hulk and so on.

I've never seen him do a thing that made me think: wow, Hulk could never do such a thing.

Hulk has the strength feats, not Thanos. Thanos is more powerful, but stronger ? Forget it.

Originally posted by Nihilist
You ever see Hulk or Thor punch Surfer to death.
Exactly.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
When talking about physical strength, I don't understand why everybody thinks Thanos is, without any doubts, definitely stronger than Thor, Hulk and so on.

I've never seen him do a thing that made me think: wow, Hulk could never do such a thing.

Hulk has the strength feats, not Thanos. Thanos is more powerful, but stronger ? Forget it.

You don't know why people think Thanos is stronger than Hulk or other top tiers? Honestly… this must be a joke right? How about the fact that Thanos overpowers Hulk and The Thing at the same time while mocking their strength and saying… "You call yourselves strong I'm strength personified" It couldn't be any more clear than that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't know why people think Thanos is stronger than Hulk or other top tiers? Honestly… this must be a joke right? How about the fact that Thanos overpowers Hulk and The Thing at the same time while mocking their strength and saying… "You call yourselves strong I'm strength personified" It couldn't be any more clear than that.
He's another hater.

Originally posted by Nihilist
You ever see Hulk or Thor punch Surfer to death.

Which Hulk ?

But if Surfer fights Hulk like he fights Thanos - like a moron - sure, why not ?

Don't forget Hulk can become a lot stronger while fighting. He took on Iron Man, Wonderman, She-Hulk, Namor and Hercules at the same time, and held his own without any problems.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Which Hulk ?

But if Surfer fights Hulk like he fights Thanos - like a moron - sure, why not ?

Don't forget Hulk can become a lot stronger while fighting. He took on Iron Man, Wonderman, She-Hulk, Namor and Hercules at the same time, and held his own without any problems.

When has the Hulk effortlessly beat down the Surfer?

Surfer fought him depowered and hand to hand and still did considerably well until he didn't fight back.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't know why people think Thanos is stronger than Hulk or other top tiers? Honestly… this must be a joke right? How about the fact that Thanos overpowers Hulk and The Thing at the same time while mocking their strength and saying… "You call yourselves strong I'm strength personified" It couldn't be any more clear than that.

Hyperbole.

How many times has Hulk been called the strongest being ever ? Half the Marvel Universe has said this time and again.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Hyperbole.

How many times has Hulk been called the strongest being ever ? Half the Marvel Universe has said this time and again.

So Hulk is stronger than Galactus?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
How many times has Hulk been called the strongest being ever ? Half the Marvel Universe has said this time and again.

Must be the stupid half...