Thanos vs. Quasar

Started by Enyalus14 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
The Inbetweener wasn't there, that's the Titan God Chronos. IB got dealt with by Order and Chaos during Thanos's Quest.

Yeah, figured they'd let him out to deal with such a threat. Whoops. Ah well. Galactus ~ In-Betweener anyway, and it really doesn't hurt what I was saying.

Thanos with the IG has shown he can increase and descrease his durability.He was getting hurt by earths heros but he didn't seem to be hurt when he got blasted by the cosmics.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thanos with the IG has shown he can increase and descrease his durability.He was getting hurt by earths heros but he didn't seem to be hurt when he got blasted by the cosmics.

No one argues this.
I just doubt he lowered his durability below his natural levels while toying with the heroes.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Again, Quasar himself notes on panel that Infinity is his 'cosmic benefactor.' He finishes beating Maelstrom in Quasar 25. This meeting against Thanos occurs next issue. Not hard to believe that he's still using her power and can tap into her power.

It actually IS hard to believe he's still using her power because it contradicts what was visibly shown and Quasar actually says it in the issue, he returned it all before the end of issue 25. And nowhere in later issues does it say or show Quasar tapping into Infinity's power. That's like saying Spiderman still has part of the Uni Power: there's no basis for that assumption.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No one argues this.
I just doubt he lowered his durability below his natural levels while toying with the heroes.

I don't know how to explain this any better. He dealt with the heroes and Avengers before. Easily. In his weaker pre-death form. Same writer and everything. Yet in the IG saga when he admits to toying with them he struggles and his durability is lower based on those two showings. What other conclusion could anyone possibly draw?

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't know how to explain this any better. He dealt with the heroes and Avengers before. Easily. In his weaker pre-death form. Same writer and everything. Yet in the IG saga when he admits to toying with them he struggles and his durability is lower based on those two showings. What other conclusion could anyone possibly draw?

That the heroes gave their best? 😱

Originally posted by K Von Doom
It actually IS hard to believe he's still using her power because it contradicts what was visibly shown and Quasar actually says it in the issue, he returned it all before the end of issue 25. And nowhere in later issues does it say or show Quasar tapping into Infinity's power. That's like saying Spiderman still has part of the Uni Power: there's no basis for that assumption.

I know what was shown in #25. And in #26 he says:

"Hope this does something! I haven't been able to tap into the energy of the Infinity Gauntlet unless he's projecting some of it. Guess his Infinity Gems aren't related to Infinity, my cosmic benefactor!"

Two things come away from this statement. The first, who is normally The Protector of the Universe's Benefactor? Eon. But in this case he says Infinity. Deduction...Infinity is still Quasar's benefactor, from two issues ago. And the second thing, he is surprised he can't tap into the Gauntlet's power and surmises it must not be related to Infinity...deduction, that he can still tap into Infinity's power.

In his pre-death form he dealt with the avengers.In IG he was fighting much more than njust the avengers.Given he side stepped their initial attack which was an iron man blast,a thor hammer,a firelord blast,and something else that i forget.I think it has something to do with namor

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
That the heroes gave their best? 😱

Shit's weak, man. Shit's weak.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Shit's weak, man. Shit's weak.

Ate chicken today, nevermind. 🙂

He didn't go below his regular because he said he used the power gem.Although could he do those things like turn adamantium to rubber,Thor to glass,and become really big with just the power of the power gem?

He can turn really big just by using the power gem. He does so against Drax and Surfer in a IG-crossover tie-in.

What about the rubber and glass thing?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What about the rubber and glass thing?

I don't know. Thanos on his own has matter manipulation. But to THAT extent? I'm not sure if the Power Gem allowed him to do it or if it was a mix of the Power and Reality gems.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What about the rubber and glass thing?

He transmuted a skrull to stone before his 1st death/ressurection.

He defintly was willing to go to any extent to get death to love him so i doubt he would have used another gem.Mabye he used his own matter maniupulation amped by the power gem.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I know what was shown in #25. And in #26 he says:

"Hope this does something! I haven't been able to tap into the energy of the Infinity Gauntlet unless he's projecting some of it. Guess his Infinity Gems aren't related to Infinity, my cosmic benefactor!"

Two things come away from this statement. The first, who is normally The Protector of the Universe's Benefactor? Eon. But in this case he says Infinity. Deduction...Infinity is still Quasar's benefactor, from two issues ago. And the second thing, he is surprised he can't tap into the Gauntlet's power and surmises it must not be related to Infinity...deduction, that he can still tap into Infinity's power.


That last thing isn't a deduction. It's an irrational leap of faith.

Infinity being Quasar's benefactor doesn't mean his power is still amped. One doesn't follow the other.

Originally posted by KK the Great
That last thing isn't a deduction. It's an irrational leap of faith.

Induction. Big deal.

Originally posted by KK the Great
Infinity being Quasar's benefactor doesn't mean his power is still amped. One doesn't follow the other.

Sure it does. Infinity isn't normally Quasar's benefactor. When she became it, he was able to tap into her power. He's surprised that he can't tap into the IG's power and reasons that it must be because the IG has nothing to do with Infinity. Ergo, he can still tap into Infinity's power. Otherwise he wouldn't have been surprised, now would he?

Originally posted by Enyalus

facepalm Try reading the ****ing series you debate against before making asinine commentary on it. Thanos was injured, even nearly KO'd by the heroes while he was playing with them. Masterson Thor, for example. Yet, he withstood attacks that blew apart entire solar systems when the cosmics showed up, so much power released that the 'near collapse of the entire spectrum of reality' nearly occured. He fights off the combined power of Galactus, the Stranger, and Eon. And later tanks the combined firepower of Eon, Inbetweener, Love, Hate, Master Chaos, Lord Order, Galactus, Mephisto, Death, Stranger, and two Celestials. And he's barely bothered by it. So yes, his durability can be increased and decreased.


You can waste all the breath you want arguing that Thanos amped his durability when the cosmics attacked (and even then, you've far from proven it since he could just as easily have been using powerful shields), but it has absolutely no bearing on whether he physically gimped himself against the heroes.

There is no indication that he did so. None whatsoever.

Try coming up with a legitimate argument for a change.

facepalm Wow...because Quasar's certainly displayed this ability to put constructs inside peoples skulls before, right?

He's not generally a murderer, but the inside of a skull is no intrinsically different than any other physical area in 3D space.

As demonstrated in the very scene in question, it can be done.

Again, Quasar himself notes on panel that Infinity is his 'cosmic benefactor.' He finishes beating Maelstrom in Quasar 25. This meeting against Thanos occurs next issue. Not hard to believe that he's still using her power and can tap into her power. For everyone who wants to use Quasar's on panel statement literally about the 'between the ears' thing, they sure as hell want to ignore the other on panel shit.

Except that "benefactor" in no way implies what you're arguing. Infinity being Quasar's benefactor and Quasar being the avatar of Infinity are two very different things.

Just reading the issues where he fights Malestrom should put your interpretation to rest, seeing as he clearly wasn't still operating on that level in the issues that followed.

Dude, seriously, read the scan again. Quasar, the initiator of the blast and on whose words your entire argument hinges, flat out states that it was a 'blast.'

He's using the word in the "bomb blast" sense, plainly.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Sure it does. Infinity isn't normally Quasar's benefactor. When she became it, he was able to tap into her power. He's surprised that he can't tap into the IG's power and reasons that it must be because the IG has nothing to do with Infinity. Ergo, he can still tap into Infinity's power. Otherwise he wouldn't have been surprised, now would he? [/B]

During those issues, he was Infinity's avatar. That was decidedly not the case anymore following issue #25. It's astounding to me that you actually believed you could make this argument stick.