Thanos vs. Quasar

Started by Black bolt z14 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
You still are avoiding the fact Thanos was laughing maniacally and pay attention to this, "putting on a show" for Mistress Death. Of course he is going to be dramatic here to win over his true love back to his corner. If Thanos killed each hero with one shot what challenge would he have overcame, exactly? He lowered himself so they would have a very small chance of defeating him.

To suggest Masterson Thor can have the real Thanos on the ropes is another slap at common sense and his friend Mr. logic.

Hdid lower himself but he didn't lower himself past his regular durabilty.But yes he did one shot a bunch of them.

Thanos clearly removed the extra sensory perception that the gauntlet gave him, nothing more. The whole point was to take away his uber cosmic awareness to make it a more "even" battle.

He displayed numerous powers during his fight with the heroes that he didn't normally possess i.e. shattering Cap's shield with a single blow iirc. This is further supported by the fact that he freaked out about how he had "nearly lost it all" when the Surfer almost snatched the gauntlet away.

But aside from all that, the text makes it plain as day that that was the case. How can anyone get any other interpretation?

Oh and btw, Thanos vs Quasar, wtf? Thanos in an insane stomp.

Originally posted by dmills
How can anyone get any other interpretation?

By wanting it to be true badly enough.

Or by actually reading his previous appearances. Hell, his durability was more impressive in Thanos Quest than it was against the heroes in the IG Saga.

Are there still people who think Thanos cut himself off from all the Infinity Gems except the Power Gem, rather than just cutting himself off from all sensory input afforded to him by the Gems?

crackers

he lowered his power output to an extent but no he didnt cut himself completely off... just the sensory imput..

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are there still people who think Thanos cut himself off from all the Infinity Gems except the Power Gem, rather than just cutting himself off from all sensory input afforded to him by the Gems?

crackers

If there are, we should set them straight.

But I'm pretty sure the debate was whether Quasar could blow Thanos' head off if Thanos was actually focused on winning, instead of playing with him. Not about how many gems he had active.

i do, well actually i liken it to doing things manually instead of automatically.

for example he stopped time locally to freeze namor and company cause he knew all at that point, but after the "challenge", thor (a person he froze) was able to land a nice blow to his face. we do know thanos was still able to manipulate time cause drax was sent to the triassic period a bit later.

so basically he could still use the gems to do anything, he just wasn't empowered by them (aside from the power gem uhuh) but could will their usage on demand.

ODG can be as hard headed as he wants, he knows deep down the power gem was all he was consistantly using 😄

Originally posted by Enyalus
Or by actually reading his previous appearances. Hell, his durability was more impressive in Thanos Quest than it was against the heroes in the IG Saga.

I'm about to suffer through that one stupid page where he went through the different dimensions, aren't I?

that page should be your desktop background

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i do, well actually i liken it to doing things manually instead of automatically.

for example he stopped time locally to freeze namor and company cause he knew all at that point, but after the "challenge", thor (a person he froze) was able to land a nice blow to his face. we do know thanos was still able to manipulate time cause drax was sent to the triassic period a bit later.

so basically he could still use the gems to do anything, he just wasn't empowered by them (aside from the power gem uhuh) but could will their usage on demand.

ODG can be as hard headed as he wants, he knows deep down the power gem was all he was consistantly using 😄

In other words: "Thanos could still use the Gems, but wasn't empowered by them"

...

I don't see a reason to distinguish between the two. But if you recognize that Thanos was still making use of the Time, Space, Reality, Soul and Mind Gems... then that's enough.

thanos

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are there still people who think Thanos cut himself off from all the Infinity Gems except the Power Gem, rather than just cutting himself off from all sensory input afforded to him by the Gems?

Not many.

Thanos words: "I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemies' next move".

A few panels later Starfox says: "He truly has dampened his cosmic senses" (just after Hulk and Drax were kicking Thanos' ass).

It's all pretty clear to me.

Of course he could call on the power of any of the gems when he wanted... who is disputing that? However, they all weren't in use all the time is the point.

Furthemore, I can't believe people are actually arguing that Thanos wasn't playing around with the heroes. Honestly....

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
However, they all weren't in use all the time is the point.

Yes they were. The only difference is that he could be surprised. Nothing more, nothing less.
Furthemore, I can't believe people are actually arguing that Thanos wasn't playing around with the heroes.

To a certain extent yes.

He wasn't playing however when Masterson Thor sent him flying (twice IIRC), or when Wolverine stabbed him without problems, or when Cyclops made him look stupid, or when Hulk and Drax punched him so hard he almost flew off the page...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Furthemore, I can't believe people are actually arguing that Thanos wasn't playing around with the heroes. Honestly....

For the 917th time, I'm not.

I'm asking one of you to explain to me rationally how that has any relevance to the base durability of his physical body.

I'd like you, KK, to explain to me rationally how you can seriously believe that Quasar is capable of 'putting a construct inside Thanos' skull.'

But I forgot, you're above answering questions. You just like to shoot down others' explanations without offering any of your own.

It's explained by the ever-shifting portrayals of characters across different writers in the patchwork continuity of the Marvel and DC universes.

Given that Darkseid easily took the punches of Lobo how could Superman, a Lobo level character, effect him? It doesn't really seem to make sense, does it? But there it is.

Thanos has been cut by Wolverine (twice, depending on your Marvel/DC stance), cut by a random assassin on a random world, hurt by Morg, hurt by a random blaster...it's just one of those things. In one of his showings, thanks to the change of writers, he was hurt by Kazar. Do you think Mark Waid wrote that story with the intention of it being a Thanos clone?

Characters have bad showings. You don't need to explain them away through baseless rationalization. Just accept it, acknowledge that it's a very small part of his overall showings, and move on.

Originally posted by Desaad
It's explained by the ever-shifting portrayals of characters across different writers in the patchwork continuity of the Marvel and DC universes.

But I'm saying. Starlin wrote the earlier story where pre-death Thanos took on and beat Thor and Thing simultaneously, without suffering anykind of damage. Starlin later writes Infinity Gauntlet, where a more powerful natural Thanos, plus the amp of the IG, is hurt and nearly KO'd by Masterson Thor?? After beating the real one? C'mon.

Same writer. Writing the character that he invented.

Now the Quasar showing, that was written by Gruenwald, and hey...he tried to slip in all kinds of little retcons and weird shit into his stories. But at least he was true to Thanos' character in the arc and made sure to portray Thanos as simply messing with Quasar.

Thanos was only cut once canonly by Wolverine. The DC/Marvel crossover clearly isn't canon. He's also never been hurt by Morg. He was tackled to the ground. That's about it.

And Ka-zar...honestly. I get what you're saying. But Mark Waid even writing that an amped Thanos (retconned to a Thanosi) would be physically overpowered by a baseline human is certifiable.