God Swamp Thing vs Molecule Man

Pre retconned MM.

ST

ST.

MM... 🤣

God ST was just a notch below The Presence.

Given the chance, he could usurp The Presence himself and become the supreme being in DC.

Owen ftw.

Owen was more powerful than all the Multiverse combined,
plus, survived against the Beyonder for a short while.

If ST could've usurped the Presence,
then the Presence is a flimsy supreme being.

No one could have ever usurped THOTI,
or any of the other supreme beings TOAA has created.

God ST could take over as God, which shows how powerful he is. It's no way a stomp in either favor.

Owen.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
God ST was just a notch below The Presence.

Given the chance, he could usurp The Presence himself and become the supreme being in DC.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
God ST could take over as God, which shows how powerful he is. It's no way a stomp in either favor.

What kind of The Presence is that then? If something like that happened, it would only be because The Presence allowed it. Otherwise, ST should be a joke to the The Presence as an ordinary ant, no difference.

I think too many are focusing on how apparently weak The Presence is, and not on how powerful God Swamp Thing was...

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think too many are focusing on how apparently weak The Presence is, and not on how powerful God Swamp Thing was...

The point is that no matter how powerful he is, that shouldn't mean anything to The Presence.

Like TOAA, there is no difference is it LT or LT+Protege+Wanda+whole Marvel Universe, that doesn't matter to TOAA. There is even no difference is it THOTI or an ant. It doesn't matter to TOAA.

MM would probably own ST.

I think it was because Presence allowed him to take over, like you said. Not that he stole Presence powers or took away.

The Voice, an aspect of The Presence, wanted to stop him. So I don't think that's the case, either.

If the Voice couldn't stop ST, I doubt Owen can. This is more like a stalemate. How can you beat a supreme being?

😄 I don't know who wins. Owen's power was ridiculous. So was ST's.

Originally posted by Xplosive
What kind of The Presence is that then? If something like that happened, it would only be because The Presence allowed it. Otherwise, ST should be a joke to the The Presence as an ordinary ant, no difference.

Carnivore tried. So did GEB.

But none of them could.

As I see it, The Presence gave them a portion of his power just to see how powerful his creations can become.

Wally the God Boy could've killed Carnivore himself. But instead, he let his creations finish the job themselves.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
It's not like it was the only instance that an 'omnipotent' being tried to usurp The Presence.

Carnivore tried. So did GEB.

But none of them could.

As I see it, The Presence gave them a portion of his power just to see how powerful his creations can become.

Wally the God Boy could've killed Carnivore himself. But instead, he let his creations finish the job themselves.

who do you think wins?

Carnivore had a death wish. He didn't want to win.

Hmmm, I think I have a battle for Wally the God-boy. 😄