Deathsrtroke vs Mr.X

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're an idiot

logan only leads misfits...ala xfactor. he can't lead a diverse group like the new avengers.

peter is not a good leader...he has no confidence to lead.

Ms. Marvel has little clout because she was with mighty avengers and was hunting the new avengers...they weren't trusting her initially.

Cage is loved...when he got the heart transplant by osborn, you saw how many people not just trusted, but LOVED cage.

First off it X-force and there stone cold killers......no misfits......he also lead the x-men on several occassions and scot has been trying for years to have him lead teams.....hell wolverine even ran a simulation that show leader prowesses and passed with flying colors........oh and prof x wanted Logan to help co lead the x-men with scot form the get go.......he also lead numerous teams like team x, numerous special opt groups and the original alpha flight, god dam why can't you shut up for onces and not make ignorant comments over and over you just sound like an idiot.

He just as fit as Luke is, and he much smarter.

Again you make another ignorant statement......they allways trusted her, always.......it was never question, hell when they had problems she was the firts person they called........

who cares if they lvoe him, if spiderman or any other avengers was in the same situtation it would have been the same reaction, you logic is just plan stupid.

Either way, its kind of silly to bust on someone for simply liking a character. I apologize lol.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As someone who was raised in an African American household, I never got the impression that Cage comes off as a negative stereotype. Granted, Power Man back in the day was something else, but if anything, Cage shows you can have a black man come from the streets and not be an idiot or ignorant beyond belief. As far as his dialogue goes, it seems pretty realistic and consistant to his background, and even then he doesn't come off in a negative light, so I don't see the problem myself.

btw, were you agreeing with me or disagreeing..couldn't tell.

Originally posted by Starscream M
exactly...btw, were you agreeing with me or disagreeing..couldn't tell.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Either way, its kind of silly to bust on someone for simply liking a character. I apologize lol.

they've shown him as

a great friend, a hotheaded and passionate leader, a flawed lover, a dolting father, etc

I never read cage before New Avengers...and I've now grown to really like him as a character because of it. he's so multidimensional and real imo.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah but the thing with spiderman and wolverine is that they don't like to lead. sure spidey will do so if he's in a pinch situation, but he prefers to be a member or solo rather than actually lead a team.

Logan as well.

they're not natural leaders although they CAN lead.

They are natural leaders......wanting to lead and being good at it don't go hand in hand for **** sakes cyclopes dident even want to lead to begin with nor was he confident and now he possibly top 2 best leaders in marvel universes......

Originally posted by Starscream M
exactly...I enjoy the way Luke Cage is portrayed. I never think of him as some stereotype caricature when I read him.

btw, were you agreeing with me or disagreeing..couldn't tell.

I was agreeing with you.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Either way, its kind of silly to bust on someone for simply liking a character. I apologize lol.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
we were not busting on them to be honest. we simply said he boring and annoy sterotype which he is, it not negative sterotype, but it still a sterotype which I find to be quite lame.

so you don't want a black guy from the streets to sound like a black guy from the streets?

you're a joke.

Originally posted by Starscream M
lol

so you don't want a black guy from the streets to sound like a black guy from the streets?

you're a joke.

I am a joke? Thing was actually in a gang and he does not sound like a thug, but sure as shit if he was black he sound worse then cage does.

I am the joke? How can you call anyone names when you talked out your ass over and over in this thread and was wrong at every turn?

do I even need to recap the crap you said that was just straight up BS.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
it funny when you call me an idiot and then make stupid comments like wolverien leads xfactor go dam your ignorant ****.

First off it X-force and there stone cold killers......no misfits......he also lead the x-men on several occassions and scot has been trying for years to have him lead teams.....hell wolverine even ran a simulation that show leader prowesses and passed with flying colors........oh and prof x wanted Logan to help co lead the x-men with scot form the get go.......he also lead numerous teams like team x, numerous special opt groups and the original alpha flight, god dam why can't you shut up for onces and not make ignorant comments over and over you just sound like an idiot.

He just as fit as Luke is, and he much smarter.

Again you make another ignorant statement......they allways trusted her, always.......it was never question, hell when they had problems she was the firts person they called........

who cares if they lvoe him, if spiderman or any other avengers was in the same situtation it would have been the same reaction, you logic is just plan stupid.

wolverine isn't a good leader because the guy is too aloof and moody. he would bring the whole team down.

neither of those two are better leaders than luke cage, who not only commands respect, has confidence, and has social skills far beyond those two.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not really he a full grown man and he sounds like a gang banger

I am a joke? Thing was actually in a gang and he does not sound like a thug, but sure as shit if he was black he sound worse then cage does.

I am the joke? How can you call anyone names when you talked out your ass over and over in this thread and was wrong at every turn?

Originally posted by Starscream M
spiderman isn't a good leader because he's not serious enough...he cracks too many jokes. he only gets serious if the situation is very very dire.

Originally posted by Starscream M
wolverine isn't a good leader because the guy is too aloof and moody. he would bring the whole team down.

Again he leading a team right now......like do you even listen to your self? HProf x, storm, cyclopes, snowbird, heather and mac hudson all consider him a great leader........... and he lead numerous times longer then many people have even been alive.......

Originally posted by Starscream M
neither of those two are better leaders than luke cage, who not only commands respect, has confidence, and has social skills far beyond those two.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what does he say that makes him sound like a gang banger? he doesn't sound like a gang banger at all.

growing in and coming from a bad neighborhood doesnt mean you have to sound ignorant and use slurs or slang as an adult let alone for the rest of your life.

how many ppl actually come from the street became successful not necessarily in multinational corporation but an honest job regardless of position and still talk calling ppl homeboy, cus and dressed all hood.

i can see some adults in entertainment doing that but a grown 4o yr
old man? no.

Wolverine doesnt talk like a miner or country pumpkin seeing as how he lived a large portion of his life that way. his personality changed with time and surroundings from being a biker to joining the Xmen learning to curb his attitude and is now more social and he doesnt cuz every other sentence....

basically how many responsible adults in real life do you see dressing like and acting like luke while in their mid 30's to mid 40's coming from the same background and having a similar responsibility as luke?

also dont insult ppl or i'll report you. 😠

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Do I really got to start quoting him.......yo ever other word, homie that crap makes him sound retarded........

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
From personal experience, Cage's dialogue is neither exaggerated, nor is it advancing a stereotype.

I don't get that impression either.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
From personal experience, Cage's dialogue is neither exaggerated, nor is it advancing a stereotype.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't get that impression either.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
growing in and coming from a bad neighborhood doesnt mean you have to sound ignorant and use slurs or slang as an adult let alone for the rest of your life.