Beta Ray Bill vs Nova corp

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh I'm not saying that Nova's strong enough to destroy a planet with a punch, just that he's powerful enough to destroy a planet. Unless there's a big difference in someone's durability to physical force compared to things like blasts, it really doesn't matter HOW someone destroys the planet.

And if you think Bill's putting down Nova with 2 punches even though Thor and Gladiator couldn't do it to less powerful versions... well you're wrong.

Yeah but my point was that Nova withstood a major beating without being KO'd even before Annihilation and you brought up the more recent fight as if it contradicts the older showing. If Glads couldn't put down Nova that easily 2 upgrades ago you're going to need some pretty solid evidence to support his being able to do so now.

The difference between Gladiator, Bill, and Thor is that Bill is mean as hell and he does not hold back.

I cant see Nova tanking hits that KILLED stardust which was a two shot.

Glads didn't really seem to be holding back much against Rich. In fact if I'm remembering right Glads had his hands around Rich's throat and was ready to kill him until the two of them were teleported onto a ship. He might not have been going full out right out of the gate, but then again that's not really the kind of thing Bill's likely to do either.

When did Bill kill Stardust with 2 shots?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Glads didn't really seem to be holding back much against Rich. In fact if I'm remembering right Glads had his hands around Rich's throat and was ready to kill him until the two of them were teleported onto a ship. He might not have been going full out right out of the gate, but then again that's not really the kind of thing Bill's likely to do either.

When did Bill kill Stardust with 2 shots?

Glads could have ended that fight at any time but again, he toyed with him. The only time Glad got serious was when Nova grabbed his cape and dragged him from the moon, hitting him with that blast.

Well, you cant call it a kill when all in all, we know that stardust will regenerate and come back but the part Im referring to was when he grabbed stardust and flew her to a planet destroying it and then grabbed her spear and put it on her chest, ramming it with his hammer.

She lost her glow (and from what I looked at, she died) and then revived, showing a totally different appearance, telling Bill that she is beyond death.

That was a two shot.

Originally posted by carver9
She lost her glow (and from what I looked at, she died) and then revived, showing a totally different appearance, telling Bill that she is beyond death.

That was a two shot.

You're forgetting Nova's shields. They were powerful enough to withstand the "herald, my rage blast". Also, what's to stop Rich from wrapping BRB in a gravimetric weave and KO'ing him with cgp?

Originally posted by carver9
Glads could have ended that fight at any time but again, he toyed with him. The only time Glad got serious was when Nova grabbed his cape and dragged him from the moon, hitting him with that blast.

Well, you cant call it a kill when all in all, we know that stardust will regenerate and come back but the part Im referring to was when grabbed stardust and flew her to a planet destroying it and then grabbed her spear and put it on her chest, ramming it with his hammer.

She lost her glow (and from what I looked at, she died) and then revived, showing a totally different appearance, telling Bill that she is beyond death.

That was a two shot.

So you're saying that you don't think Nova could stand having a spear driven through his chest with enough force to destroy a planet... neither do I. BTW, since when does Bill have Stardust's spear in this fight? If Bill doesn't have it, then whether or not Nova could withstand having Bill drive it through his chest is kinda moot...

Yeah and it momentarily shattered her physical form... but then again so did Storm's lightning, and I'm pretty sure Nova could tank lightning. So yeah, I think Nova could tank an attack that momentarily blew up Stardust...

Originally posted by darthgoober
He seemed to be pretty serious when he threw the massive train...

So you're saying that you don't think Nova could stand having a spear driven through his chest with enough force to destroy a planet... neither do I. BTW, since when does Bill have Stardust's spear in this fight? If Bill doesn't have it, then whether or not Nova could withstand having Bill drive it through his chest is kinda moot...

Yeah and it momentarily shattered her physical form... but then again so did Storm's lightning, and I'm pretty sure Nova could tank lightning. So yeah, I think Nova could tank an attack that momentarily blew up Stardust...

I think the slam that destroyed that planet would ko Nova, let alone those planet destroying hammer shots.

When did Storm lightning do that to Star Dust?

Originally posted by dmills
You're forgetting Nova's shields. They were powerful enough to withstand the "herald, my rage blast". Also, what's to stop Rich from wrapping BRB in a gravimetric weave and KO'ing him with cgp?

Or whats to stop bill from hitting nova with that blast that busted through Galactus Hull?

Any energy output that nova dishes out, I'm pretty sure by a 100% that bill can absorb it. Hell, I think he could tank it since this is the same guy that was asleep in the core of the sun.

Originally posted by kgkg
😂 wtf it didn't even look like Stardust was K.O'ed let alone die.

Read it again. Star Dust was knocked the Fu** out.

Originally posted by carver9
Read it again. Star Dust was knocked the Fu** out.

Originally posted by kgkg
Are you referring to their first fight or second?

The first fight. The second one was hard to tell but I'm pretty sure stardust was knocked out since she was just floating around in space with her arms to the side.

Originally posted by carver9
I think the slam that destroyed that planet would ko Nova, let alone those planet destroying hammer shots.

When did Storm lightning do that to Star Dust?

A while back...
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Originally posted by darthgoober
Well you're welcome to think that, but I disagree. Like someone else said Rich's shields withstood the "Herald my Rage" blast, I'm pretty sure that at the very least they could reduce the force of of the shot to something someone capable of taking punches from Glads and Thor can withstand(at least for a while).

A while back...
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Is that not the same book where Black Panther subdued the Surfer?

Not a good book to use if you ask me.

So do you think Nova can pull some wins from Bill?

Nope. Basically the grav weave increases brb's mass so much that he becomes too heavy to move. The cgp is basically Nova's version of a mindrape. Thousands of tons of compressed gravimetric energy being blasted right into your brain. BRB will be KTFO.

1- It would be a good match: Both of them have been owned by current Surfer, in a way that is illegal in Alabama. In my mind, they're pretty equal, maybe with an edge to Bill.

2- The Corps.

Originally posted by carver9
In my eyes I already picture him as a high herald, with this upgrade......WOW.

Also, BRB in #1. Corps in #2.

Depends on how many Nova there are in the Corp the World mind distributes power amongst all of them. Currently ....yeah

Originally posted by dmills
Nope. Basically the grav weave increases brb's mass so much that he becomes too heavy to move. The cgp is basically Nova's version of a mindrape. Thousands of tons of compressed gravimetric energy being blasted right into your brain. BRB will be KTFO.

Plus they can vibrate specific matter while moving at high speeds, not violent enough to hurt BRB but on his helmet would be pretty deafening. Plus Nova is Destroyer level trained in H2H combat.

BRB goes down IMO
Nova Corps are awesome and very underated. And anyone who uses the Annihiliation Waves destruction of the previous Corps doesn't understand the magnitude of the Wave's potentential.

Yep. He owned Gamora and current Drax. I almost forgot how good a h2h fighter Rich is.

Why do people keep saying Nova was embarrassed by SS? He wasn't.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't think I agree. Even with the full Nova Force, he was utterly embarrassed by Current Surfer (high-herald.) I'd put him somewhere between low-herald and mid-herald, currently.

Also, BRB in #1. Corps in #2.

Its not good to use Current Surfer to judge someones power. This is the same surfer that took hits from tenebrous and was still moving around trying to fight.

We dont even know where current Surfer power level is at but he is on a completely different level and Surfer has always been the embodiment of high herald (besides Thor).

Surfer embarrising Nova by no means puts him below the high herald chart.