Abraxas vs. Lord chaos and Master Order

Started by Enyalus4 pages

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
this is what i said.....

No. You said his true form is a physical body. It is not. His true form is energy. He appears in a physical body for the sake of those he visits, so they're better able to comprehend him.

Galactus is an abstract.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No. You said his true form is a physical body. It is not. His true form is energy. He appears in a physical body for the sake of those he visits, so they're better able to comprehend him.

Galactus is an abstract.

abstracts are not even energy.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
abstracts are not even energy.

😬 If they weren't energy, they'd have zero power.

Look at the Phoenix Force.

http://www.comicvine.com/anthropomorpho/29-59373/

Originally posted by Enyalus
😬 If they weren't energy, they'd have zero power.

Look at the Phoenix Force.


there not energy

eternity is the embodiment of life/space time, thats not energy
death is the embodiment of physical deat, still not energy
oblivion is the embodiment of pure nothingness, he still has power......

Originally posted by galactusischere
http://www.comicvine.com/anthropomorpho/29-59373/
he acts as a physical body for abstracts, unless he is the one who acts as galactus physical self then im right.

Infinity is space. Eternity is time.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he acts as a physical body for abstracts, unless he is the one who acts as galactus physical self then im right.

He doesn't "act" for them. He just creates M-Bodies for them.

Originally posted by galactusischere
He doesn't "act" for them. He just creates M-Bodies for them.
i thought he "IS" the physical body of them?

No.
"Anthropomorpho is The Prime Manifester of The Dimension of Manifestations, nearly every being in existence, primarily entities such as Eternity or The Living Tribunal, use his services constantly to create M-Bodies for themselves which allows them to be in many places and sometimes all places at once. Since he considers himself a neutral party he has opened services to everyone be they good or evil, it should be noted that he does not always appear in a physical form, most people don't even realize he is there when they enter The Dimension of Manifestations but whether you know it or not Anthropomorpho is always there for you."

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
there not energy

eternity is the embodiment of life/space time, thats not energy
death is the embodiment of physical deat, still not energy
oblivion is the embodiment of pure nothingness, he still has power......


Eternity contains all the energy/power throughout time, in the entire universe. Dr. Strange said so.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Eternity contains all the energy/power throughout time, in the entire universe. Dr. Strange said so.

pff, I really thought you knew better then to trust Doctor Strange Enyalus... can never trust a doctor...

Originally posted by Utrigita
pff, I really thought you knew better then to trust Doctor Strange Enyalus... can never trust a doctor...

But he performs surgery on teh universe!!! I only don't trust them when they tell me to turn my head and cough.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No. You said his true form is a physical body. It is not. His true form is energy. He appears in a physical body for the sake of those he visits, so they're better able to comprehend him.

Galactus is an abstract.

I think it's the microbes that interpret him as they want, he doesnt really care one way or the other.

Still chaos and order are above galactus, this may be somewhat difficult to prove with feats because they dont really do anything, but they should be on par with the other big abstracts as big chunks of reality.

Originally posted by 753
Still chaos and order are above galactus, this may be somewhat difficult to prove with feats because they dont really do anything, but they should be on par with the other big abstracts as big chunks of reality.

Yeah, unless it was retconned the explanation I was familiar with was that in their realm, Chaos and Order are the mystical universe's equivalent to Eternity and Death, while In-Betweener was their universe's equal of Galactus.

Still, Abraxas wins.

@ 753

Chaos and Order are the weakest abstracts after Love and hate. Galactus at his best would the most powerful.

Eternity and Infinity were the last to be absorbed by Thanos, Oblivion wasn't present and THOTI had no power over mistress death. IB, Chaos, Order, Galactus, etc were absorbed with less resistence.

Originally posted by galactusischere
@ 753

Chaos and Order are the weakest abstracts after Love and hate. Galactus at his best would the most powerful.

Eternity and Infinity were the last to be absorbed by Thanos, Oblivion wasn't present and THOTI had no power over mistress death.

Where are you getting that from?

Anyway, thotu had no power over death because thanos did not want to exercise any power over her, if he wanted her gone from the cosmos and eternity/infinity/eon preserved as a cancerverse like the one at the other end of the fault, that would happen in a heartbeat. He just had the hots for her.

Another explanation is that death and oblivion represent the absence of existence, so as thanos swallowed existance, they may have been left. It says nothing about power levels.

That art was just allegorical anyway, all the heroe floating in space etc

Galactus apparently has no upperlimit though, but in this thread we are talking about a normal level like the one that stalemated IB, not BCA. Even then, I have my doubts that multieternity, multichaos so on and so forth, couldn't have stopped BCA G if they actually went all out with an objective. They are just very passive, maybe because they know these things sort themselves out.

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BCA Galactus was augmented by Tiamut's tech, anyway, so you can't use that as a typical showing of 'peak Galactus.'

Originally posted by 753
Where are you getting that from?

Anyway, thotu had no power over death because thanos did not want to exercise any power over her, if he wanted her gone from the cosmos and eternity/infinity/eon preserved as a cancerverse like the one at the other end of the fault, that would happen in a heartbeat. He just had the hots for her.


Ok..

Another explanation is that death and oblivion represent the absence of existence, so as thanos swallowed existance, they may have been left. It says nothing about power levels.

Their concept remained, while Chaos and Order's concept was destroyed/absorbed.

Galactus apparently has no upperlimit though, but in this thread we are talking about a normal level like the one that stalemated IB, not BCA. Even then, I have my doubts that multieternity, multichaos so on and so forth, couldn't have stopped BCA G if they actually went all out with an objective. They are just very passive, maybe because they know these things sort themselves out.

Galactus' brother, Eternity of 616 IS multi-eternity...

"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL this -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,

I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the Universe[B]s
"

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/721892/etpf1.jpg.html

and there is no "multi-chaos" or "multi-order" as far as I know.