Originally posted by Survivor19
Which is quite different fom Spidey fighting style
And we didn't get to see how effective it was against the real deal anyway...
Spiderman going to be read like and open book. If X can produce a way to read even berserker wolverine as well as animals........there really nothing spiderman can do to stop x from reading him........which is the entire point.
Originally posted by Battlehammerumm wolverine doesn't have spidersense...which negates X's advantage
yea and what does spidy fighting style beign different gunan save him?Spiderman going to be read like and open book. If X can produce a way to read even berserker wolverine as well as animals........there really nothing spiderman can do to stop x from reading him........which is the entire point.
Originally posted by SamZED
I read the book, but we didn't get to see what would've happened. I personally think Wolverine would've still sliced him. Also tbh I dont know what the writer was thinking. I mean the way Logan "won". That was a stupid bluff and only someone who knows NOTHING about Wolverine would believe that he would've let it go if X murdered children at the school.
Wolverine new x never would kill the children if it ment Wolverine would never fight him, it was no bluff it was a fact. His best chances for there survival was not to fight x.
Originally posted by SamZED
Spider sense isnt really mute, its just they both got precog of a different kind and both can finish the fight with one good attack (X with a stab, Parker with an all out punch) but Spider-man is still faster. So I think CIS off at least - he'd definitely take it. CIS on may be not.
Spidersense is pretty mute, becuase x trained his body to lock onto brain wave patterns, his body reflexively blacks and dodges every attack thrown his way while he is able to read ones thoughts to know the moves one planning to make several movres later. In this type of match Mr X abilities is superior to Spidersenses. Mr. X is also vastly more skilled and would be the one to land the first shot.
Originally posted by Starscream M
umm wolverine doesn't have spidersense...which negates X's advantage
Originally posted by Battlehammeryes but spiderman can sense what X will do to before it happens...so in a sense their powers negate each other.
Buit Spidermans powers don't negate anything. X trained his power to lock onto brain waves of his opponent. He also has the ability to read his opponents mind. His power can be both offensive and defensive in nature while spidersenses is simply defensive and not even to the level of accuracy of x's.
also, spiderman's fighting style is more akin to berserker mode as spidey aint an MA. its harder for X to predict his movements.
Originally posted by Starscream M
yes but spiderman can sense what X will do to before it happens...so in a sense their powers negate each other.
Originally posted by Starscream M
also, spiderman's fighting style is more akin to berserker mode as spidey aint an MA. its harder for X to predict his movements.
Originally posted by Starscream M
your logic escapes me...
However in a melee fight though X might beat on him a little, he gunna get tagged before he could hope to put spiderman down and though X has shown beyond human levels of damage soak and durbaility he not wistand class 10 punches and I find it hard to beleive he put spiderman down the majority of the time with no weapons.
Im also kind of leaning towards the belief that the 2 powers would almost negate each other. Mr. X would be able to react to Spidey's moves before he makes them, but Spidey should be able to react to his counter. However, Mr. X would see Spider-Man's reaction before he can make it, and alter that..... ugh so confusing lol.
Seriously though, Powerwise Im going to lean more towards Mr. X solely because his power seems a lot more precise. Spidersense will only tell him hes in danger, not the nature of it. Mr. X on the other hand can react specifically to his threat.
Originally posted by SamZEDLogan outsmarted X because he saw X for what he really was .
I read the book, but we didn't get to see what would've happened. I personally think Wolverine would've still sliced him. Also tbh I dont know what the writer was thinking. I mean the way Logan "won". That was a stupid bluff and only someone who knows NOTHING about Wolverine would believe that he would've let it go if X murdered children at the school.
Spider sense isnt really mute, its just they both got precog of a different kind and both can finish the fight with one good attack (X with a stab, Parker with an all out punch) but Spider-man is still faster. So I think CIS off at least - he'd definitely take it. CIS on may be not.
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Originally posted by BattlehammerIMO what writer did doesn't make sense. If X murdered his team mates Logan would definitely fight him and try to kill him for that. He took hellova chance when he left a psycho murderer alone. It was a bad bluff and X would eventually see through it.
I don't X display just what he needed to to combat the berserker rage.Wolverine new x never would kill the children if it ment Wolverine would never fight him, it was no bluff it was a fact. His best chances for there survival was not to fight x.
Originally posted by BattlehammerX is fast but he's not Spider-man fast, I actually doubt he's Wolverine fast. He was always shown to be great at dodging which is mostly thanks to his powers. Sure he has the speed to go with the powers but it doesn't really take to be faster than say Daredevil to do what X did with that kind of power. I wouldnt say its pushing it to say that Spider-man is faster. Faster enough for it to make a difference.
I disagree completely abotu spiderman beign deffiently faster. I think thats pushing it. The way X has been shown since day one is that he posses superhuman level of speed and reflexes easily beyond taskmaster and wel within wolverine level. So any edge spiderman may have will be very slight.
Originally posted by BattlehammerWhen I said it's not mute I meant for Spider-man, sure X can sense all Parker's attacks coming but so can Spider-man. It would've been a lot harder for him without the ss and I doubt it'd let X make the first shot. I know lotsa people complain about the Logan X oneshot, but Im actually looking forward for the rematch.
Spidersense is pretty mute, becuase x trained his body to lock onto brain wave patterns, his body reflexively blacks and dodges every attack thrown his way while he is able to read ones thoughts to know the moves one planning to make several movres later. In this type of match Mr X abilities is superior to Spidersenses. Mr. X is also vastly more skilled and would be the one to land the first shot.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowWRONG
they made Logan look like a P#@@y with his response.. i hate him and all the new writers that have destroyed what he once was...
Wolverine took a dump on the face of X and took away his entire reason for living.
Wolverine saw X for what he was and dismantled it.
X has to fight Logan does not have to fight X because at the end of the day X is just another one dimensional psycho with a nice trick and money. When you are not worth fighting your life has no meaning.
X is a 1 dimensional character who is occasionally a useful foil for better characters like say Luke Cage wink1