Apocalypse vs. Dr. Doom

IDK, you would have to ask Mr.Master that. He knows this stuff more than anybody on this site.

Originally posted by galactusischere
You need to re-read SW one. Neither Galactus nor Doom's tech was succesful taking down the Beyonder.

it's very possibly the greatest tech/prep feat in Marveldom.

well, aside from the time someone called the cops on Thanos, that was godly prep.

No galactusischere is right. Doom failed misreably when he tried to steal Beyonder's powers that way. He was shreded to pieces, it was through Doom's sheer will power that he managed to take Beyonder's powers.

All happened in SW I

And as for the thread, the Apocalypse wins both scenarios.

iirc, he used his tech and feigned defeat, in order to catch Beyonder off-guard.. I'll re-read it but ...

Doom's entire plan revolved around Doom getting within arm's reach. Although he certainly would have avoided being shredded... if he could have helped it.

While trapped in Reed's body, Doom was able to unlock and access all of Reed's tech and his laboratories pretty effortlessly. And Reed's prep and tech > Apoc's, so...

Still without prep Doom wouldn't win against a high herald character. With prep I doubt it too but whatever.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Still without prep Doom wouldn't win against a high herald character. With prep I doubt it too but whatever.

^ More than a one-shot, but yes he did knock him out and bring Magus to his knees.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Still without prep Doom wouldn't win against a high herald character. With prep I doubt it too but whatever.

Apocalypse has had decades or more of prep and still lost miserably...

Maybe being the biggest jobber in marvel has something to do with that?

Originally posted by galactusischere
Maybe being the biggest jobber in marvel has something to do with that?

By now, should that be considered in character for Apocalypse?

**** apocalypse with thousands of years and ceslestial tech he has never accomplised any of his goals .

Doom with will guts and brains alone has won his many of his battles.

If you have thousands of yers + celestial tech at your command and you still cant acomplish your goals you are shit.

Doomie wins

Originally posted by galactusischere
You need to re-read SW one. Neither Galactus nor Doom's tech was succesful taking down the Beyonder.

So what took down the Beyonder?

Originally posted by godking
**** apocalypse with thousands of years and ceslestial tech he has never accomplised any of his goals .

Doom with will guts and brains alone has won his many of his battles.

If you have thousands of yers + celestial tech at your command and you still cant acomplish your goals you are shit.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Maybe being the biggest jobber in marvel has something to do with that?

and...

Originally posted by K Von Doom
So what took down the Beyonder?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
No galactusischere is right. Doom failed misreably when he tried to steal Beyonder's powers that way. He was shreded to pieces, it was through Doom's sheer will power that he managed to take Beyonder's powers.

All happened in SW I

And as for the thread, the Apocalypse wins both scenarios.

Originally posted by Enyalus
*shrugs* Doom one-shot Classic Warlock.

As for the fight, Doom in both scenarios wins.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Was that the same fight when he (and Kang) tried to take the IG from Magus?

Apocalypse has technopathy, telekenisis, and shapeshifting, which allow him to do so much more with his superior tech.
Doom can't win this battle.

And what has exactly Doom done in a fair one on one fight, that puts him at Apocalypse's level?