Tulak Hord vs. Marka Ragnos

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Nitpicking? No, there's a difference and it makes your "argument" that much weaker. There's nothing to debate here. You haven't provided a single valid claim.

I haven't provided a single valid claim... about what exactly? We aren't even debating about a fight between Hord and Ragnos, we seem to be talking about Kreia and Ragnos' role in the Great Sith War. (And in my opinion that was not Ragnos - that was a pointless retcon which brought about more problems than solved them). Let's get on topic, shall we?

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm pretty sure there isn't a difference. 😬

This is why you stay in the background.

I mean really, if you can't see a difference between "bringing about the sith war" and "I'd say he had quite a role in bringing about the Great Sith War", then you're a lost cause.

Originally posted by AncientSithLord
I haven't provided a single valid claim... about what exactly? We aren't even debating about a fight between Hord and Ragnos, we seem to be talking about Kreia and Ragnos' role in the Great Sith War. (And in my opinion that was not Ragnos - that was a pointless retcon which brought about more problems than solved them). Let's get on topic, shall we?

You brought up Ragnos' role in the sith war, nobody else. I'm not sure why Kreia was brought up, other than to glorify the ancient sith in regards to combat. There's nothing on "topic" here. We don't make threads with unknowns on this forum.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
You brought up Ragnos' role in the sith war, nobody else. I'm not sure why Kreia was brought up, other than to glorify the ancient sith in regards to combat. There's nothing on "topic" here. We don't make threads with unknowns on this forum.

I was responding to your comment that Ragnos did not accomplish anything of significance. I took it upon myself to correct you. I brought up Kreia since she is the main source as regards Tulak Hord's combat abilities, which is quite necessary if one wants to debate a fight between him and Ragnos. If you don't want to debate in this thread, then leave.

I was responding to your comment that Ragnos did not accomplish anything of significance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
This is why you stay in the background.

I mean really, if you can't see a difference between "bringing about the sith war" and "I'd say he had quite a role in bringing about the Great Sith War", then you're a lost cause.

Eh? I admit I haven't slept tonight, but I'm not too out of it that I would fail to notice a drastic difference in 'Started a war' and 'had quite a role in starting a war'. The second one is understated perhaps but that really does fall under the heading of 'bullshit, semantic nitpickery'.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Eh? I admit I haven't slept tonight, but I'm not too out of it that I would fail to notice a drastic difference in 'Started a war' and 'had quite a role in starting a war'. The second one is understated perhaps but that really does fall under the heading of 'bullshit, semantic nitpickery'.

Not in an argument. You don't go from the original premise of "starting a war" to "having quite a role in it". You call it nitpicking, I call it misrepresenting your own position.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Not in an argument. You don't go from the original premise of "starting a war" to "having quite a role in it". You call it nitpicking, I call it misrepresenting your own position.

Do note I said "effectively bringing about the Great Sith War..." That's quite different from "Marka Ragnos started the Great Sith War." You are nitpicking and twisting my statements. Thank you.

Originally posted by AncientSithLord
Do note I said "effectively bringing about the Great Sith War..." That's quite different from "Marka Ragnos started the Great Sith War." You are nitpicking and twisting my statements. Thank you.

Actually, I'm just responding to what DE wrote, ergo I'm not twisting your statements. And again, "effectively bringing about the Great Sith War" is not the same thing as "having quite a role". One puts him at center stage with THE ROLE, the other one gives him some part to play.

Jesus Christ! You insulted me becuase of a tiny little difference in tone?! Well, I'm sure someones going to get her diploma (you're still a lawyer, right?)

Originally posted by Nephthys
Jesus Christ! You insulted me becuase of a tiny little difference in tone?! Well, I'm sure someones going to get her diploma (you're still a lawyer, right?)

I think you may need to get some sleep, as you're becoming delusional.

At least I had the gall to insult you because of your incredibly small manhood. 😬

Naw, I love you man.

Oh my god, this looks so familiar...

Why can't people just understand the meaning of 'unknown' and the rule that unknowns aren't allowed in versus threads.

AncientSithLord
We don't know much about either Tulak Hord or Marka Ragnos. Who cares? This is a forum for fights between various Star Wars characters.

We really have no way to know for sure, but I'm gonna say Ragnos? Why, because I can.

maul takes it in sabers

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
maul takes it in sabers

Lord_Lucien, I thought you and Dr McBeefington were one and the same?

Did you guys miss this?

😱

Quoted for profile.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien

Stay here another week or so. Eventually you'll see that we demand evidence for everything and the most logical conclusion just in case something's missing. This is that forum that will Ignore/Flame you for using your imagination. Empiricism FTW. [/B]

To be fair, even the most logical conclusions are usually ignored in absence of proof.

I'm going to say this: Almost everything Kreia says in that game is to lie and decieve: I simply don't believe her on Korriban.