Mister X vs Gambit

Started by Dum Dum Dugan7 pages

Originally posted by Uriel005
Like I said gambit touches tower off and jumps out a window and nukes the place. Gambit has higher mobility feats than X imo.

He also has vastly more showings. Gambit has no advantage in mobility, do you know how fast Mr.X is?

Now don't go listening to ninja nonsenses above, he had literally no idea what he was talking about.

Still going with the AoE on onslaught for Gambit.

Originally posted by 753
Still going with the AoE on onslaught for Gambit.

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area of effect

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
area of effect

Thanks. Gambit wins this, he only need to evade x which he likely could.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
But it proof that he can block X, because prof x had trouble enter completely into his mind?

No X being able to read him is not definite proof, true, but it goes a long way to suggesting he can. Logan has numerous defenses against telepaths, much more so he gambit.

Multiple TP users having trouble reading Gambit would be evidence that Mr X might have problems, however reading Wolverine wouldn't be evidence for Mr X being able to read Gambit, because Wolverine and Gambit's resistance don't have the same source.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Multiple TP users having trouble reading Gambit would be evidence that Mr X might have problems, however reading Wolverine wouldn't be evidence for Mr X being able to read Gambit, because Wolverine and Gambit's resistance don't have the same source.

Wolverine has far more defenses against TP ranging from organic to artificial. He also has the better TP resistant feats as well. So this suggestion that gambit can resist his TP is unfounded. He locks on brain impulse and minitors most basic thoughts. These are not nearly as difficult as enter ones mind.

His powers also worked agaisnt DP who also has better TP feats then gambit is literally insane......

Then he was capable of using his powers against black widow despite the fact she was able to hide who she really was from Normandy Osborn and hammer, who have numerous telepaths.

Wolverine has different defenses than Gambit, so Mr X being able to get past Logan's defenses is worthless when trying to determine if Mr X can get past Gambit's.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine has different defenses than Gambit, so Mr X being able to get past Logan's defenses is worthless when trying to determine if Mr X can get past Gambit's.

The fact there different is irrelevant. we know Wolverines are better. We know X has read several individuals with superior TP resistance's to gambit. He also automatically locks on to brain impulses, there no defending against that.

no your logic is simply silly. By your logic if Emma consistently showm the ability to mind rape professor X, that is worthless in an argument on weather emma can mind rape Elektra, because her TP comes from a different source. 🙄

Gambit.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
The fact there different is irrelevant. we know Wolverines are better. We know X has read several individuals with superior TP resistance's to gambit. He also automatically locks on to brain impulses, there no defending against that.

no your logic is simply silly. By your logic if Emma consistently showm the ability to mind rape professor X, that is worthless in an argument on weather emma can mind rape Elektra, because her TP comes from a different source. 🙄

Them being different isn't irrelevant.

Example, Metal is superior to glass, yet guess what happens when you put Sulfuric acid in tubes made from each.

Actually, Let’s back up for a minute, I want to make sure I’m understanding your position.

Prof X and other telepaths having trouble reading Gambit doesn’t matter because Mr X’s TP works differently, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Them being different isn't irrelevant.

Example, Metal is superior to glass, yet guess what happens when you put Sulfuric acid in tubes made from each.


To bad were talking about comic characters and not elements and acid. Thats not how it works in comics. Also that not how it works the majority of the time period. Simply because something is different does not make it immune, especially if it not as impressive to begin with. Your arguement strings completely on the fact it is different. So you think it more reasonable to think Gambit will magically be immune to X powers, despite the fact many individuals with superior TP resistances of been unable to do so. Also not simply better TP defenses, but also numerous ones. Wolverine has friggin displayed 3 or more types of TP resistance each against individuals more impressive then Gambit has done.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually, Let’s back up for a minute, I want to make sure I’m understanding your position.

Prof X and other telepaths having trouble reading Gambit doesn’t matter because Mr X’s TP works differently, right?


No it what he trying to accomplish. He trying to get the most basic of thoughts, this is not something they were trying to do against gambit. Becuase it would be useless to them, but he perfected entire fighting style around it. He also auto locks onto your brain impluses. Love to here you explain how he magically defends against that.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
To bad were talking about comic characters and not elements and acid. Thats not how it works in comics. Also that not how it works the majority of the time period. Simply because something is different does not make it immune, especially if it not as impressive to begin with. Your arguement strings completely on the fact it is different. So you think it more reasonable to think Gambit will magically be immune to X powers, despite the fact many individuals with superior TP resistances of been unable to do so. Also not simply better TP defenses, but also numerous ones. Wolverine has friggin displayed 3 or more types of TP resistance each against individuals more impressive then Gambit has done.

I think having multiple examples of TP users having trouble reading Gambit vs 0 examples of Mr X being able to read someone with Gambit's defenses is enough to call his ability into question.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I think having multiple examples of TP users having trouble reading Gambit vs 0 examples of Mr X being able to read someone with Gambit's defenses is enough to call his ability into question.

No it not, your arguements stupid. Becuase it never happen means he won't magically. How is it saver to assume gambit powers magically cancel out Mister X, despite the fact X has read several individuals with great TP resistance.

What more logical? That mister X will read Gambit like he read several individuals we superior TP resistance, or that for some untold reason gambit magically immune to Mister x.

Those same TP user have been completely block by wolverine, but x still read him all the same. Again when has anyone ever tried to read gambit basic thoughts, and lock onto his brain impulse? oh that right never, but magically you assume he protected despite the fact the character in question has read individual who have no sold the same telepaths to great extent then gambit and also more times.

Again, Wolverine isn't proof, as his defenses aren't the same as Gambit's.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Wolverine isn't proof, as his defenses aren't the same as Gambit's.

But your logic is not sound. Why would we assume that individual who could easily read people like wolverine, shown the ability to read deadpool, taskmaster ect. two of which have superior TP resistances. But magically Gambit going to be immune? 🙄

Honestly do you get how stupid it sounds. There is far more evidence for it working, then it magically not working, all you have is"it different" as if that so how makes powers magically not work. Honestly based on your logic Emma can't telepathy assault elektra becuase her powers "different", honest look how stupid that arguement is..........

They don't have the same type of defenses that Gambit does, so why should anyone accept them as proof?

Originally posted by Silent Master
They don't have the same type of defenses that Gambit does, so why should anyone accept them as proof?

Your just trolling now, there no way your this stupid.

They do have similar defenses, all of which posses TP resistance. Why should they be accepted as evidence for why it is more likely it will work then won't?

The fact they have better TP resistance. The have better feats, they ahve better feats against the same telepaths. So if he can easily read a number of people with an assortment of different tp defenses, and abilities surpassing gambit own, then that suggest he should have no difficulty reading Gambit.

But oh no that not logical, it far more likely that gambit randomly for some unknown reason posses immunity to Mister X telepathy. Yes that make sense, that it more likely that Gambit posses a secret immunity to mister X telepathy 🙄