Mister X vs Gambit

Started by Silent Master7 pages

They don’t have similar defenses, IIRC Gambit’s have been described in two ways before, one being that it’s hard to get a hold of thoughts(which was said in the scan on the previous page) and the other that his powers cause a kind of static which TP users have a hard time getting through. You have provided zero proof that Mr X can get through those types of defenses.

BTW, where is your proof that Wolverine’s TP defenses are superior to Gambit’s as they relate to Mr X’s brand of TP?

I think Gambits big advantage is battlefield control. X's power doesn't help if Gambit starts nuking the field. He controls where X goes and traps him in one big bang that he can't escape.

Again his brand of defense is irrelevant, they have never shown to be more effect then wolverine, deadpool ect. You keep going on about how it different this and that. However can you provide even one instance in which Gambit TP defense work while wolverines did not?

Because if that has never happen why would it magical occur with mister X? Your entire arguement is built upon an argument that has never even remotely been proven to be true.

SO what if it different? When has that difference have shown to be more effective in blocking telepathy then wolverine?

Hell we even have direct comparisons between the two against the same telepaths and guess what wolverine feats trump gambits.

So please stop with this strawman arguement. Proof it.

Prove that Gambit's type of defense is irrelevant to Mr X.

Doesn't the constant kinetic energy flowing through Gambit's body make it nearly impossible for high end TP's to get through his head?

And I'm pretty sure if he wants to, he can move faster than X can react to.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that Gambit's type of defense is irrelevant to Mr X.

I dont have to. Your entire argument hinges upon the idea that Gambit TP resistances coming from a different source then wolverine, gives him special resistance against certain types of telepathy. Prove it.

Your entire arguement is based on that one fact, however it has never shown to be more effective in any telepathic setting when compared to wolverime. So your entire arguement is based off speculation that is supported by nothing. However your speculation does contradict what has occurred on pannle such as wolverine showing superior TP resistance to gambit with both professor X and psylocke.

Yes you do, seeing as you've been saying that Mr X can read Gambit and that his defenses are irrelevant for over a page now.

Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't the constant kinetic energy flowing through Gambit's body make it nearly impossible for high end TP's to get through his head?

It gives him tp resistance but not even on the level of wolverine.

The event you are refferring to was when psylocke attempted to enter gambit mind, however psylocke at the time was not that powerful as telepath and she got pretty deep into his head.

Which IIRC was right after he woke up from a coma so he probably wasn't at full strength and I believe he was able to cut the connection.

i only recall Psylocke entering his mind when Gambit was comatose and his defenses had dropped.. Psylocke even stated that his kinetic field even while unconscious made it near impossible to enter let alone if gambit was awake.

she went into his mind and was only in for a few seconds before gambit realized she was in his dreams/memories and kicked her out and shut up his mind.

Originally posted by King Castle
i only recall Psylocke entering his mind when Gambit was comatose and his defenses had dropped.. Psylocke even stated that his kinetic field even while unconscious made it near impossible to enter let alone if gambit was awake.

she went into his mind and was only in for a few seconds before gambit realized she was in his dreams/memories and kicked her out and shut up his mind.

Ah, I was slightly mistaken then, I had thought he'd just woken up.

he woke up a few seconds later grabbing psylocke and threatening her for entering his mind without his permission..

Thae makes his TP defenses seem pretty high, possibly too much for X. And he's a better fighter as well. On top of that, he can make things go boom. He's got too much going not to take a majority.

Originally posted by King Castle
he woke up a few seconds later grabbing psylocke and threatening her for entering his mind without his permission..

Thanks.

On the previous topic of getting through different types of defenses. I'll say again. Getting through one type of defense isn’t proof that you can get through another.

Example.

Is being able to get past a locked fence proof that you can get past a moat or past a pack of guard dogs?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes you do, seeing as you've been saying that Mr X can read Gambit and that his defenses are irrelevant for over a page now.

Yes and I given logical reasoning. Wolverine has better tp resistant feats, he has better direct comparisons between how he did compared with specific telepaths and how well gambit did. It is a fact wolverine TP resistance is better.

So if mister x can easily read wolverine mind, who has superior tp resistance, why on earth would one believe gambit stood a chance of being immune?

Because his TP resistance comes form a different source? Yet there is zero evidence that this difference has ever proven to be more effective then wolverine defense in no circumstance nor against similar opponents . However you expect me to believe despite all the contradiction and complete lack of evidence for your argument, that the most likely scenario is that Gambit has magical resistance to Mister X? Are you kidding me

In my opinion, reading minds or brain impulses or muscle movement, whatever they finally decided X did, will be nigh impossible with a constant and highly concentrated coating of kinetic energy scrambling everything.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Yes and I given logical reasoning.

No you haven't.

Wolverine has better tp resistant feats,

What Gambit feats are you comparing them too?

Originally posted by KingD19
Thae makes his TP defenses seem pretty high, possibly too much for X. .

......yea if you completely leave out the context that psylocke was not a very powerful telepath in the least bit at the time.

Yes he going to some how be to much for X, but wolverine who has superior tp resistant feats, and against the same individuals no less, was unable to keep him out. Then there also DP instance as well, another person consider almost impossible to read and Mister X powers worked fine.

You still haven't mentioned what Gambit feats you're using for comparison.