Revan is the strongest

I don't know why you don't give Revan credit. He's stronger than every other Jedi and Sith there is.

This is in the wrong part of the Forum.

Ever hear of Darth Sidious?

Not my sock, I promise. Although he was absolutely right.

Darth bane is the strongest.

Darth Bandon is the strongest. He is stronger than every jedi there ever was. : /

Originally posted by truejedi
Darth Bandon is the strongest. He is stronger than every jedi there ever was. : /

QFT

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nah jar jar binks solos everyone the sheer amount of accident prone in this gungan is win

I think Luke ultimately becomes the strongest.

Was Luke ever identified as the heart of the Force?

where was revan id'd as the heart of the force by a credible source? (kreia doesn't count)

This is one instance in which she is not unduly biased.

You know I looked up the dialog.tlk file for KoToR 2 and Obsidian's staff left comments on each dialog line, explaining why the characters were saying what.

It said nothing about it Kreia lying on that line. All it said was that she was firm on her words and that she didn't want to compare him to the Exile. Specifically:

"A teacher not wanting to be forced to compare two of her greatest students."

The problem with the line is that its super ambiguous.

wasnt jacen the heart of the force for a few minutes? and luke has been said to center himself in the heart of the force. EWWW luke centered himself in revan. also, similar things have been said about Kenobi.

EWWW luke centered himself in revan.

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Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I SENSE A TERRIBLE SLASHFIC IN THE WORKS

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YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Ever hear of Darth Sidious?

Why do you think Darth Sidious is stronger? What has he really done. All I have seen from sidious is the fact that he is very cunning but not a great weilder of a saber nor of his skills as a force user. He uses pawns to do his biding thats why he seeks the strongest force users around. Such as anakin.

Originally posted by redvain Why do you think Darth Sidious is stronger? What has he really done. All I have seen from sidious is the fact that he is very cunning but not a great weilder of a saber nor of his skills as a force user. He uses pawns to do his biding thats why he seeks the strongest force users around. Such as anakin.

Despite of his capabilities, he is not perfect and invincible. What I find ironic is that he could not outclass the finest swordsmen of his time: Yoda and Mace (in a lightsaber duel).

And he looses to DE Luke who is aided by BM of his sister and potential of her unborn child.

Also, as far as his accomplishments are concerned, you are right that without support of powerful apprentices, he would not have succeeded in destroying the Republic.

Marka Ragnos is also called "the most powerful of the most powerful" of the Dark Lords. Ancient Sith could create and wear gauntlets that prevented anything from touching them without consent, blast enemies to dust with Sith spells, drain entire planets with the Force, instakill Jedi enemies, create zombie armies, and much, MUCH more. The Ancient Sith defeated Darth Sidious and brought him to the brink of death. Kreia, who gave accurate history as far as the ancient Sith are concerned, said the Jedi/Sith of her day (yes that means Revan) would be as children playing with toys compared to the prowess of the ancient Lords. It's referenced in numerous sources, in-universe and out, clear from everything we see of them in TOTJ, clear from all the talk about the knowledge and secrets of the ancient Sith being lost (e.g. the secrets of cheating death)... the ancient Sith Lords OWNED Revan and Palpatine.