Old Snake vs. Charizard

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I was loling at Charizard having the mind of an animal. Pokemanz are pretty intelligent. Also, I was loling at the MGS weapons. Zard is high tier pokeymanz.

Still, Charizard is not one of the pokemon that is above human intelligence, and a railgun is going to give him hell.

So, you up for that truce?

Originally posted by SpadeKing
A plasma cutter is small and it can melt through metal gear, there goes your size argument.

I wouldn't consider all Charizard's 5' 7", in the one episode where they met all the other Charizards they had girls there that Dwarfed Ash's Charizard.

i think you missunderstood my argument, yes, a plasma cutter could melt the steel that makes metal gear rex, but do completely destroy it would take....idk years to do with one. im just saying that just because something is hot enough, does not mean it could destroy it before it has a chance to counter attack, and that is assuming that charizard even has the first attack

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Snake who happens to have an IQ of 181.
ok, so i want to know where you heard this...because i consider myself somewhat of an expert on the subject of metal gear, and i did not know this.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I was loling at Charizard having the mind of an animal. Pokemanz are pretty intelligent. Also, I was loling at the MGS weapons. Zard is high tier pokeymanz.

Most Pokemon can't even do things right without trainers telling them what to do. Charizard is one of them. He's no Mewtwo or Deoxys.

High Tier? At most, Charizard is mid-tier but the last Pokemon game I played was Crystal. MGS weapons are funny? What's funnier are the Pokemon attacks that fail to kill people: Thundershock, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Flamethrower, Hyper Beam, Explosion, etc.

Originally posted by menokokoro
ok, so i want to know where you heard this...because i consider myself somewhat of an expert on the subject of metal gear, and i did not know this.

I first noticed this in Brawl but this is also found here: http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs_tts/english/chara_snake.html

And I was a point off. He has an IQ of 180.

Charizard is mid tier in the competitive metagame, due to stealth rock and poor typing, in terms of actual power in canon? He's very powerful, able to at one point stnad up to Entei, and Ash's Charizard is a wimp.

Originally posted by menokokoro
i think you missunderstood my argument, yes, a plasma cutter could melt the steel that makes metal gear rex, but do completely destroy it would take....idk years to do with one. im just saying that just because something is hot enough, does not mean it could destroy it before it has a chance to counter attack, and that is assuming that charizard even has the first attack

Just to let you know a PLASMA cutter is definately going to eat through metal gear, thats a few 10,000 degrees over whats needed, I think you misunderstood my side too, if something about 3-4 ft smaller than Charizard can eat through metal like nothing then there goes the size portion of the argument cause its exerting enough power despite the size.
Can Rex even fire behind itself?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Most Pokemon can't even do things right without trainers telling them what to do. Charizard is one of them. He's no Mewtwo or Deoxys.

High Tier? At most, Charizard is mid-tier but the last Pokemon game I played was Crystal. MGS weapons are funny? What's funnier are the Pokemon attacks that fail to kill people: Thundershock, Thunderbolt, Thunder, Flamethrower, Hyper Beam, Explosion, etc.

I first noticed this in Brawl but this is also found here: http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs_tts/english/chara_snake.html

And I was a point off. He has an IQ of 180.

The people in the pokemon anime survive worse than most people in any of the games we mention 😐

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Just to let you know a PLASMA cutter is definately going to eat through metal gear, thats a few 10,000 degrees over whats needed, I think you misunderstood my side too, if something about 3-4 ft smaller than Charizard can eat through metal like nothing then there goes the size portion of the argument cause its exerting enough power despite the size.
Can Rex even fire behind itself?
.....do you even know what you are saying? yes, a plasma cutter is incredibly hot, and yes it can melt through steel pretty easy. but i don't think you know what the difference between size and temp are. see, even though a plasma cutter would be able to take down rex, it would take an incredibly long time because of how little it is actually doing at a time. ok, a great example, a lightning strike...hotter than the surface of the sun, but it does not destroy us all in a burning fire ball of doom....because it is not large enough to do so. that is what i mean by the flame not being large enough to do enough damage fast enough.

The lightning strike doesn't even last a second and we have nukes whose initial heat energy gives off 10 times of what the sun is and it is way larger than that lightning strike and we're still not in a burning fire ball of doom so I don't see what was the point of adding in that last part.

I think you're missing how quick that plasma cutter would cut through Rex's leg which is all thats needed to mess up it's movement or even drop it, that cutter is gonna easily destroy any part of rex it generate 3x the heat needed at the least. At most it would take a full day of work to completely melt Rex, and at most it would take a full minute or 2 to saw through Rex's legs completely depending on if he actually has more metal than just the outer exterior or just wires on the inside which would really make it about 10 seconds to render it's legs useless with that small precision aiming plasma cutter.

actually a plasma cutter is about 50,000 degrees F if i remember right, and that is almost 17 times hotter than it takes to melt steel. and the reason i brought up a lightning strike, is that if a plasma cutter can do what you are saying it can, then a lightning strike would most definitely melt a car instantly because it is so much hotter than a plasma cutter. yes the plasma cutter cuts through anything pretty much instantly, but if the object is large enough like...idk, rex's leg, it would take quite some time to get through it, one of its lets is like the thickness of a tank, and is not hollow, it is the support for that 300+ ton monster.

Edit: not cut through ANYTHING just any type of metal

Which plasma cutter gets that hot? 🤨

I mean like most mechanical stuff there are wires inside of it at certain spots, it could be possibly that the wires are all near the top though, but I doubt they even tell in the game...

I also don't know why we're arguing a plasma cutter vs metal gear rex 😐

yeah if there were vital wires there it would not be good. See if I had designed metal gear rex, i would specify that kind of stuff, or at least have it available, i just like knowing stuff like that....

but yeah, it is 30,000 degrees my bad, but still that is 10 times hotter than it takes to cut steel, more actually.

but yeah lets leave that alone lol