Gamora vs. Wolverine

Started by Wild Shadow67 pages

yes, it has killed those types of beings in the past but it doesnt say how and in what context (hyperbole).. i would assume well placed hits would be the deciding factor in its past fights not its hyperbole.

so again i ask you who has it killed or more specifically who has she killed with it?

saying it can kill thanos is a bold claim if your basing it on the hyperbole titan claim b/c their is actually varying degrees of titans from alien/human type beings to mythological ones and it sure didnt say hey this knife has killed titans from saturn and immortals from earth that have regeneration abilities and even the ethereal type ones as well ..

these thread has been done a couple of times before

I'll just quote my previous posts



Gamora v Wolverine

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This debate goes on forever

GAMORA
It boils down to how you swallow both high end feats from each character.
Gamora if you believe she is the deadliest woman in the Universe should own this, her body is enhanced to press a few dozen tonnes, she was trained by the Mad Titan, her speed has been enhanced through robotic tech and genetics. Her skills are strong enough to kill Nova corp with ease, kick the power gem out of classic Drax's gut (Classic Drax was almost Silverage-ish in strength) and she has dropped bricks like She-Hulk and Maxam.
If people like Cap, DD and Elektra can own Wolverine then Gamora can one shot Logan
Plus Gamora has a healing factor so chances are even if Wolverine could tag her Gamora would heal from it

LOGAN
Then you have the high end Logan who seems to be a ninja himself, he doesn't get dropped by nerve strikes ever unless its PIS, his healing factor can soak blows from World War Hulk forcing Hulk to BFR him into another state. He can heal from anything, he's almost immortal and even if he's smashed to bits his skeleton will survive and Wolverine will be back on his feet in 8 seconds, he is a bullet timer and he has already beaten Gamora (even if most of the fight was off panel)

You may dismiss both statements I made about each character as PIS but that's the trouble with Gamora and Wolverine, they both have ridiculous high end feats, once you start chopping away at their high feats it becomes difficult to separate what is high end PlotInducedStupidity and what is low balling a character with disrespect.

My gut feeling says Gamora should own this 8/10, but I know a debate like this one can go on forever.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=524896
that's how I call it

Originally posted by tkitna
Why would I want to read about the territorial expansion of the United States and what does that have to do with Gamora kicking Wolverines @ss?
I lol'd.

Originally posted by Badabing
Cocoons ftw!
And now Thanos is a beautiful Butterfly... no wait a sec...

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Originally posted by Trackz
logan has been knocked out more consistently by character who don't have hulk strength than he has remained conscious from strikes at hulks strength.

Hulk took Logan out by slapping his head into unconsciousness in Xmen WWH.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Sooooooo... you'd like to view Wolverine vs. WWHulk in a vacuum, as isolated incident, ignoring all the examples of Wolverine shrugging off Class 100 blows and completely remove it from the context of Wolverine's history, except to compare it to low ball PIS examples of him going down to Class 5'ers? Is that what you are saying?

We aren't going to ignore every healing / durability feat Wolverine has slightly below the WWH one, for the sake of your argument and view the feat in the bubble. Examples of Wolverine going down to Class 5 characters, need to go up against all of Wolverine's healing and durability feats below the WWH before the can move up the ladder and challenge it. Which is something they can't do, because they are in the vast minority.

BTW Red Hulk.

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that's not what i said, i asked for examples of wolverine standing up to world war hulk LEVEL blows, the number of times this happened should be more consistent than the amount of times that wolverine has been taken out by lesser hits in order for the world war hulk incident not to be considered PIS.

Red Hulk never hit him if I remember correctly.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Thanos was arrested by the Police! 😱

Any more pointless PIS examples you'd like to site as evidence? Might as well get them out of the way now.

it would be PIS if these didn't happen on such a consistent basis, even if you want to believe it takes a hulk level ht to one-shot wolverine, it's been made apparent that after an extended fight wolverine can be put down by much less.

bye the way the only consistency about logan being ko'ed by low lvl blows is that he has already had his HF significantly lowered by previous beatings or a back story explaining why he is going down.

usually.

Thats Ult Wolverine, so it has nothing to do with 616.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Hulk took Logan out by slapping his head into unconsciousness in Xmen WWH.
one example, which doesn't outnumber the other examples of him being knocked out by weaker opponents

Originally posted by jinzin
Thanos was a sparring match, you think she would do as well in a straight confrontation?

Maxim, like Srank said was a bit of a mook. The guy was scared to fight a Sasquatch who thought he was weaker than Thing.

Wolverine's beat Hulk, Rogue, one shot thing. I really fail to see at what point you think she's more impressive.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No. Wolverine can't beat the Hulk. He's done it, but that's PIS. Hulk has healing factor that will repair any damage does to him nearly instantly, nothing Wolverine can do other than fight him until his own healing factor is overloaded. He can give him a fight, but wouldn't ever win.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Thats Ult Wolverine, so it has nothing to do with 616.
facepalm2 False that is 616 wolverine.

Is that the Death Wolverine? I thought its from Ult Wolverine vs Hulk.

What comic?

i dont feel like searching my stash in the closet or checking google but you can find it if you research it in google,,,

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
facepalm2 False that is 616 wolverine.

ambiguous, you have no idea how long he has been in the air (which may have been for quite sometime), so whether or not he was Ko'd for the trip or not is unknown.

however, even if you want too use these examples, it doesn't outnumber the time's he's been knocked out by lesser blows.

Gamora definitely has the ability to put wolverine down seeing as she nerve struck the thing out. Especially after a drawn out battle.

Its Death Wolverine, isnt he upgrade by Apoc? If so than its not normal Wolverine.

the upgrade he received from apocalyse was the re introduction of his adamantium skeleton, a adamantium sword with a phase disruptor energy discharge and finally teleporter and psi blocks and removing wolverines inhibition to harm and kill ppl.

aside from the adamantium bones none of that had any bearing in their fight...

Gamora didnt have a drawn out fight with the thing your smoking crack if you think she did.. she couldnt get near him and would have gotten knocked out by thing if that tells you anything about her own durability compared to logan she required Sasquatch to hold thing while she placed her nerve strike on him..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the upgrade he received from apocalyse was the re introduction of his adamantium skeleton, a adamantium sword with a phase disruptor energy discharge and finally teleporter and psi blocks and removing wolverines inhibition to harm and kill ppl.

aside from the adamantium bones none of that had any bearing in their fight...

Gamora didnt have a drawn out fight with the thing your smoking crack if you think she did.. she couldnt get near him and would have gotten knocked out by thing if that tells you anything about her own durability compared to logan she required Sasquatch to hold thing while she placed her nerve strike on him..

My point was if she is able to one-shot the thing, after a drawn out fight she could easily put down wolverine

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tell me again what is his norm durability aspect? oh it must be the few handful of fights when he faces streetlvlers rather then the majority ones when he doesnt go down by either street lvlers or gricks..