@Shrank,
she's never really done anything outside of her attributes
2) According to your definition of "skilled", only Bucky, Frank Castle and Ronin are truly skilled.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[B]Insane healing factor isn't required to beat Wolverine. He's been beaten by foes without it. /B]
Foes with abilities that Gamora doesn't have.
She is a melee fighter without a viable ranged option, a healing factor significant enough to compensate for the damage Wolverine will dish out during combat, durability high enough to turn Wolverine's claws or a significant speed or skill advantage that would allow her to avoid him for any substantial amout of time. So... how does she win?
Originally posted by dmills
@Shrank,1)What has Wolvie ever done without a healing factor, super senses or adamantium? What more powerful opponent has he beaten without those attributes?
2) According to your definition of "skilled", only Bucky, Frank Castle and Ronin are truly skilled.
He speed blitzed Domina, who had the collective powers of the Warclan and who wreaked an entire rosters of X-Men (including Colossus if I'm not mistaken), and worked her over with just his fists.
He's also beaten Shang Chi / Daredevil in a handful of panels. One of those he was bone claw, and both of them where over before his healing factor could come into play.
Originally posted by Starscream MIs that what you were doing when you responded to my first statement as follows:
I wanted you to back your statement up. You made it sound like logan would get owned and have no shot at winning, yet have not stated any actual reasons why.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gamora. Not even a question.
Originally posted by Starscream MI don't have telepathy. And it was difficult to look past the stupidity of your stupid questions to se what you were attempting.
I bet you dont read much wolverine.
Originally posted by srankmissingninYes, and Gamora possess abilities that those foes don't have either. Thank you Captain Obvious.
Foes with abilities that Gamora doesn't have.She is a melee fighter without a viable ranged option, a healing factor significant enough to compensate for the damage Wolverine will dish out during combat, durability high enough to turn Wolverine's claws or a significant speed or skill advantage that would allow her to avoid him for any substantial amout of time. So... how does she win?
She wins by being more capable in nearly every category you touched upon. News to you, I trust?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0most of logan's foes are more superior in nearly every category...guess what, Logan still comes out on top more often than not. He's the best at what he does.
She wins by being more capable in nearly every category you touched upon. News to you, I trust?
Rulk would've owned gamora, yet he got owned by logan. What say you?
Originally posted by dmills
Gamora has a healing factor. She has Gorgon level speed at least. Maybe you should check up on the character a little bit.
Once again - and this is the same problem you had with the Drax fight so please try to pay attention - she doesn't have any feats that place those abilities on the same level as Wolverine. She has never healed from any significant wound during the course of a fight without have to to stop and recuperate, she has also never displayed any speed above that of Wolverine, and living in space doesn't compensate for that.
Logan has faced many various ppl without his healing factor he actually goes beyond what the cream of the crop street lvler MA can reach..
need i remind ppl when he fought a thousand man army of tech, and sin men with a burned out healing factor? i believe he only took one hit and he was dodging, using MA, showed his strength and his reflex skills..
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Is that what you were doing when you responded to my first statement as follows: I don't have telepathy. And it was difficult to look past the stupidity of your stupid questions to se what you were attempting. Yes, and Gamora possess abilities that those foes don't have either. Thank you Captain Obvious.She wins by being more capable in nearly every category you touched upon. News to you, I trust?
I'm sure the fanfic you are getting your info from is very fun read, but I think I'm just going to go of whats been shown in the comics.
^ The comics that show Gamora would win? Ok.
Originally posted by Starscream MAnd Wolverine's lost to opponents who are more superior to him in nearly every way, and Wolverine has lost to opponents who are more superior in some respect sand not others, and Wolverine has lost to opponents who are not superior in any way.
most of logan's foes are more superior in nearly every category...guess what, Logan still comes out on top more often than not. He's the best at what he does.Rulk would've owned gamora, yet he got owned by logan. What say you?
Getting thrown into the East River = winning? durredhulk
i feel ashamed that i completely forgot to mention Domina which is one hell of a feat lay to claim for an overpowered and skilled fighter...
i remember that the X-men watched in shock screaming logan was doing it...something the entire team couldnt do.. logan just watched and had his team fall back as he shoved them and brought the adamantium enforced pain up close and personal to domina...
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Logan has faced many various ppl without his healing factor he actually goes beyond what the cream of the crop street lvler MA can reach..need i remind ppl when he fought a thousand man army of tech, and sin men with a burned out healing factor? i believe he only took one hit and he was dodging, using MA, showed his strength and his reflex skills..
He also beat Deathbird - who is extremely skilled - when he was half dead and his healing factor was all but nonexistent. The issue even stated the only thing keep him alive was sheer force of will and that he was a shadow of his former self.
Recap of the argument from both sides thus far:
Wolverine side: Gamora needs to melee Wolverine, since she has no viable ranged options, but she lacks a healing factor significant enough to compensate for Wolverine's claws, durability turn them, or a speed / skill edge significant enough to avoid them. So Wolverine will win.
Gamora side: Gamora will win.
Don't get me wrong, Team Gamora, it is a very compelling argument... but maybe... I don't know... you might want to try supporting it with something? Just a thought.