Gamora vs. Wolverine

Started by OneDumbG067 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You mean your crack pot theory that a few PIS examples(or WIS if you want), made with inaccurate anatomical knowledge, means that Wolverine is missing bones in his skull?

How else are you going to beat him? If you can't over load his healing factor... he isn't going to go down.

Having three foot long claws housed in your forearm is also inaccurate anatomical knowledge. I love how you haven't come to grips with Wolverine having his brain penetrated yet. Delicious.

Except the times he has gone down that didn't overload his healing factor.

also spider-man kicking danny ass with no effort

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Having three foot long claws housed in your forearm is also inaccurate anatomical knowledge. I love how you haven't come to grips with Wolverine having his brain penetrated yet. Delicious.

Except the times he has gone down that didn't overload his healing factor.

Yes because Wolverine has claws = him missing pieces of his skull! Of course, how could I not realize it? 🙄

Wolverine's skull can't be penetrated. It was penetrated in a few PIS examples, we don't use PIS (read the forum rules) so they are completely irrelevant. You came up with an unvalidated theory to explain something that doesn't need to be explained. If Wolverine was missing parts of his skull we'd know about it, it would be mentioned in one of the thousands of comics books, or failing that Handbook entries, featuring Wolverine. Its not, because he isn't.

When has Wolverine gone down without his healing factor being overloaded? If Wolverine's gone down, his healing factor was overloaded. Fact.

^ No. Because projectiles and claws have penetrated his skull several times on-panel = him missing pieces of his skull. How could you not realize it?

It's stupid that an alien can be killed by exposure to lead, one of the most prevalent elements in the universe. Doesn't make it PIS because it kills Daxamites on-panel. Wolverine's brain has been penetrated numerous times on-panel. If Wolverine's brain were completely encased in adamantium, he wouldn't have had his brain penetrated all those times. Think about it. Just not too hard.

lulz

Originally posted by dmills
Iron Fist will beat wolvie 8/10 easily. Especially in a forum battle. But we're digressing. Gamora wins 😂

Oh and Fat Cobra takes a looong time to heal. Danny can do it instantly.

didnt wolverine do better against junzo then IF and it was Wolverine who had to save IF from junzo?

hmm.. i doubt IF is a better MA fighter than logan he may have more amps but not equal... also logan has fought Psylocke whom i would put above IF...

iron fist was stalemated by shang chi whom again wolverine beat

Gamora? Pft,,,who knows. I just figure a person that throws tanks around and is as good or probably better fighter than said character should be able to win. Thats my opinion anyways.

Cap wouldnt lose 10 straight either. I dont see why he couldnt stun Wolverine by bashing his throat with the shield and then going in for a choke hold for a KO. No way he loses 10 straight. I dont care how much of a hard-on somebody has for Wolverine, that aint happening.

Logan has operated after chokes, throat strikes, rips, tears, stabbed not breathing b4 ,i believe it only worked once via DD in a garth ennis run...

times it has failed over times it has succeeded? once.

Please don't get me started on that PIStacular Iron Fist/Wolverine crap!

Anyway, Marvel seems to be pushing Danny into Karate Kid levels of absurdity. As an old school Iron Fist fan going waaaay back, I kinda have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, who doesn't want to see their favorite hero get a big time power up. On the other, it takes away some of the vulnerability that made me fall in love with the character as a kid.

I mean, I remember when he used to fight people that way outclassed him and they'd have the thought bubbles making you feel his doubt, and his determination to find a way to win. Now they have the guy amping up like frigging dragon ball z, doing chi blasts, throwing hundreds of punches and kicks in a second or karate chopping helicarriers out of the sky! That put's him firmly into super human pissed off hulk level punching power turf. Now if I see him struggle to beat say, Daredevil, it won't be beliveble to me. IMO they should probably tone him down just a tad.

Anyway, I gotta get some sleep. I'll check in with you peeps tomorrow.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ No. Because projectiles and claws have penetrated his skull several times on-panel = him missing pieces of his skull. How could you not realize it?

It's stupid that an alien can be killed by exposure to lead, one of the most prevalent elements in the universe. Doesn't make it PIS because it kills Daxamites on-panel. Wolverine's brain has been penetrated numerous times on-panel. If Wolverine's brain were completely encased in adamantium, he wouldn't have had his brain penetrated all those times. Think about it. Just not too hard.

lulz

Riddle me this: Why would the Weapon X program spend millions of dollars to make an anti-metal bullets capable of killing Wolverine, if he was missing parts of his skull? Doesn't that seem like over kill? They would say "Hey Mavrike shoot Wolverine in the eye, he has no bones back there!" No, the created bullets capable of penetration Wolverine's skull because it was necessary, and they'd know... considering they have extensive files and x-rays on hand concerning Wolverine, and they gave him the Adamantium in the first place. Once again, if he was missing bones, we'd know about it. It would be a potent weakness to exposit. Ultimate Wolverine had one bone in his body that wasn't Adamantium. You want to know how I know that? Because *gasp* it was stated.

You've concocted this asinine theory to explain something that doesn't need to be explained because its going to be ignore anyway. Four isolated examples that have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Mystique shooting Wolverine through nostril (the only possible example out of the lot) doesn't not validate Scalphunter shooting Wolverine through the eye with a large caliber bullet, which in turn doesn't validate Deadpool shotting Wolverine through... um... where ever he was supposed to have done that, and that doesn't validate Wolverine getting shot through ear channel with a crossbow bolt. None of them have anything to do with one another. None of them make each other more valid when compared as a whole.

One example is possible, Mystique could have should Wolverine through the anterior orifice and hit his brain, its just extremely, extremely unlikely. Two examples are based on misconceptions on human anatomy one on the auditory hiatus and the other on the orbital cavity. A misconception about the size and angel of the auditory hiatus has nothing to do one way or any other with a misconception about the size of the hole the orbital cavity. And the Deadpool example is just complete nonsense. You mention these examples in a group, as though they somehow lend credibility to one another, but in reality that have nothing to do with each other. They are all completely different, and all deal with completely different pieces of anatomy,

Suggesting that Wolverine is missing is Sphenoid bone is absurd, we've seen the great wing of the Sphenoid bone about a dozen times when Wolverine's skull (the Sphenoid bone isn't just part of the occipital bone, but the frontal as well) has been exposed. In fact we've seen every single bone in Wolverine's the orbital cavity, as they all partially extend into temporal and frontal bones which we've dozens of times. Thinking that Wolverine has an incomplete orbital cavity because a writer didn't realize that the opening in the orbital cavity is much to small for a bullet to pass through is a huge leap.

@wildshadow,
Danny had no iron fist/chi. Junzo had it. Danny was operating at his normal peak human levels at that point. Wolverine had to savr his ass.

Originally posted by tkitna
Gamora? Pft,,,who knows. I just figure a person that throws tanks around and is as good or probably better fighter than said character should be able to win. Thats my opinion anyways.

Cap wouldnt lose 10 straight either. I dont see why he couldnt stun Wolverine by bashing his throat with the shield and then going in for a choke hold for a KO. No way he loses 10 straight. I dont care how much of a hard-on somebody has for Wolverine, that aint happening.

Because Wolverine's been kicked from New York to Georgia (the country) without losing consciousness? Its been stated on panel that when the Hulk punches Wolverine it ruptures and liquefies all the organs in his body... and he heals before the next punches lands. What exactly do you think Captain America could possibly do time him without PIS? There is nothing he could possibly do. The suggestion that he could is absurd... I mean, not as absurd as saying Wolverine is missing bones in his skull, but you get my point.

exactly wolverine doesnt use chi either and he was able to take on junzo who did possess Chi amp powers and then some...

also the fact that IF couldnt compete at his base lvls means something about his fighting skill lvl..

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because Wolverine's been kicked from New York to Georgia (the country) without losing consciousness? Its been stated on panel that when the Hulk punches Wolverine it ruptures and liquefies all the organs in his body... and he heals before the next punches lands. What exactly do you think Captain America could possibly do time him without PIS? There is nothing he could possibly do.

So Wolverine can heal faster than constant pressure? Talk about PIS.

Regardless of whats been stated on Panel, i've seen Wolverine dazed thousands of times in comics. Thats all the on panel proof I need.

@muhaha_guy (sock puppet/troll)

Why bring up a fight that likely happened before you were old enough to read? Oh and Danny was holding back. Read it in context to see why.

Originally posted by tkitna
So Wolverine can heal faster than constant pressure? Talk about PIS.
he has down it b4 multiple times,,, 😉

taking a barrage of pressure point attacks with a burned out hf and he still tanked a sh#@load of them from one of marvels best Pressure point practitioner MA master..

Originally posted by tkitna
So Wolverine can heal faster than constant pressure? Talk about PIS.

Regardless of whats been stated on Panel, i've seen Wolverine dazed thousands of times in comics. Thats all the on panel proof I need.

What did you think was happening when he gets into melee slugfests with class 100 bricks exactly? 😕

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he has down it b4 multiple times,,, 😉

taking a barrage of pressure point attacks with a burned out hf and he still tanked a sh#@load of them from one of marvels best Pressure point practitioner MA master..

So basically what your getting at is its impossible to KO or even harm Wolverine? Is that what your saying?

Originally posted by tkitna
So basically what your getting at is its impossible to KO or even harm Wolverine? Is that what your saying?
no, i am not saying that nor em i implying that.

Originally posted by tkitna
So basically what your getting at is its impossible to KO or even harm Wolverine? Is that what your saying?

It's impossible for Captain America do it, someone like the Hulk would overload his healing factor sooner. Captain America could beat on Wolverine for 24 hours straight and he wouldn't come close do dealing the damage of one of the Hulks glancing blows, and Wolverine can shrug off hay-makers from the Hulk. I like Captain America as much as the next guy, but with out PIS he just isn't beating Wolverine even 1/10 in a forum match.