Originally posted by Wild Shadow
aint no rules in combat no such thing as cheap shots or cheating when both are in a combative position and fully engaged
Please tell me your joking.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Neither Cap, Batman or Daredevil can give Wolverine a run for his money... 😕
Get out Fanboy. Just get out.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine could sit in a chair for six hours while Batman or Daredevil beat him over the head with an Adamantium bat and still beat them 10/10. They have the same odds of beating Wolverine as Wolverine does of beating the Hulk. None. Zero. Maybe they can hang with him in a fight briefly, but they will never have any actual chance of winning.Or maybe you just don't know who Wolverine is... Is that the problem? Homework time!
Go to your LCD and pick up some back issues! Or failing that DL them I guess, I'm not going to tell you how to download comics, but you have the internet and its easy to figure out. Read these: http://www.comicvine.com/wolverine/29-1440/issues-cover/
Respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t486007.html
My god Lord now you're just humiliating yourself.
stronger lung capacity and his HF keeps him going for an extent constantly regenerating...
but he has a limit... wolverine has stated he didnt know if his healing factor can keep him from drowning or if it would simply prolong an excruciating death.. logan still swam to the surface as his lungs popped and regenerated over and over his mind was going beastial from the lack of oxygen and simply going on instinct... his eyes sight reduced to tunnel vision. by the time he reached the surface he was in a rage and foaming ready to kill tiger shark he tracked his @$$ for his beat down..
yes, wolverine can die from lack of oxygen in the ocean but it will keep him alive long enough to heal regenerate and keep fighting on the surface.
Originally posted by dmills
@Shrank,Wolverine, like most characters, has a history of high and low showings. We've seen him get ass raped by peak humans to meta's, and we've seen him tank punches from the Hulk and keep on coming. Which is PIS? Him getting ko'ed by peak human/meta's or him not getting ko'ed for a looong time but class 100 bricks? Technically you could argue both.
You could argue both but one would be right and one would be wrong. I've read every single Wolverine appearance.... several times. I've read through thousands of issues when Jinzin and I where compiling the Wolverine respect thread, and I can tell you with certainty that Wolverine slugging it out with high end bricks is the vast majority. Wolverine going to down to street level MAs are about as common as him eating a nuke and surviving, having Sunspot go Chernobyl on his ass and level an forest or him failing into a vat of molten metal and then climbing out. Those are the high - low spectrum with slugging it out with Class 100s in the middle somewhere.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In the Tiger-shark feat mentioned above. Wolverine said (or theorized) that his healing factor will keep him alive, but in a perpetual state of drowning forever. He may be alive... but it isn't pleasant.
So in theory, the same would apply if he were in space without oxygen? Able to function also?
Basically the writer created an aspect that Wolverine no longer needs oxygen. To what lengths will they go to next?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's impossible for Captain America do it, someone like the Hulk would overload his healing factor sooner. Captain America could beat on Wolverine for 24 hours straight and he wouldn't come close do dealing the damage of one of the Hulks glancing blows, and Wolverine can shrug off hay-makers from the Hulk. I like Captain America as much as the next guy, but with out PIS he just isn't beating Wolverine even 1/10 in a forum match.
My good Lord man Cap has hurt Korvac with his barehands hes a space god.
Korvac >>>> Wolverine.
Hes been able to KO Namor underwater, and to stun Professor Hulk....pppppplease.
Originally posted by Deadline
My good Lord man Cap has hurt Korvac with his barehands hes a space god.Korvac >>>> Wolverine.
Hes been able to KO Namor underwater, and to stun Professor Hulk....pppppplease.
The "No PIS" Rule
PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The "No PIS" RulePIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
My god you pulled the I dont Like IT It didnt Happen? SRank hes been doing stuff like that from his very first appearances its not PIS because hes been shown to do that shit for 100 years.
Listen ive tol;d you before you're very good at makign excuses it doesnt make you a genuis. Anybody can find fault.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
ppl need to start reading wolverine comics and stop assuming his low end feats are his majority showing...
You need to stop labellling feats you dont like as low.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The "No PIS" RulePIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
Kind of like the Hulk when he fights Wolverine
Originally posted by tkitnawhat part of it is pis? logan can take a set amount of punches, he can jump like a jack rabbit has the speed reaction to keep hulk from connecting periodically..
Kind of like the Hulk when he fights Wolverine
what is pis about it, unless you think a thunder clap will Ko and BFR logan in one clap?
hate to tell you this wolverine has bn fighting hulk and bricks from his 1st appearance and winning long b4 hulk even had a HF....
Originally posted by Deadline
My god you pulled the I dont Like IT It didnt Happen? SRank hes been doing stuff like that from his very first appearances its not PIS because hes been shown to do that shit for 100 years.Listen ive tol;d you before you're very good at makign excuses it doesnt make you a genuis. Anybody can find fault.
I liked it fine, Caps the shit, but that doesn't mean it isn't PIS. I liked it when Wolverine climbed out of that vat of molten metal and was fine. I like it when Wolverine ate a nuke and was fine... both times. I liked it when he was hurting Doop with his fists and when he decked a flying Cannonball and he actually effected him. I liked it when bone claw Wolverine cut Thanos. It was still PIS though.
Originally posted by tkitna
Kind of like the Hulk when he fights Wolverine
Except for you know, "even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent," Wolverine's powers and history suggest he is capable of hanging with the Hulk... its what he was made for.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I liked it fine, Caps the shit, but that doesn't mean it isn't PIS. I liked it when Wolverine climbed out of that vat of molten metal and was fine. I like it when Wolverine ate a nuke and was fine... both times. I liked it when he was hurting Doop with his fists and when he decked a flying Cannonball and he actually effected him. I liked it when bone claw Wolverine cut Thanos. It was still PIS though.
You're not listening. Hes been shown to do stuff like that from his very first appearances, this indicates its not PIS because hes always been shown to do it and hes been doing stuff like that for ages.
Im not even sure if all those examples are PIS obvoulsy you have to look at Wolverines showings in general and then come to a conclusion.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Except for you know, "even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent," Wolverine's powers and history suggest he is capable of hanging with the Hulk... its what he was made for.
Again, this scan suggests otherwise.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6695/wolverine47010gs0.jpg
After all, the Hulk beat the Sentry didnt he? I wonder how Bob owned Logan so easily. I mean, Wolverine didnt get even one puch in. Makes me question Wolverines history a little. Even in his first appearance he was nothing more than a mere annoyance to the Hulk, but yet he got popular and now he doesnt even make sense in the fantasy worlds that we see while reading comics.
Sucks because I used to like the character.
Originally posted by tkitna
What part of Cap hurting Korvac is PIS? Caps has had just as long or longer history of taking on characters that are superior to him also, but people dont want to accept it.It works both ways.
You aren't telling me anything I don't know. I was already taking about stuff like this earlier in this very thread. This is the stuff that tells you Captain America is a top tier MA. He does stuff above the restrictions of his body. Gamora doesn't, which is why I think it is extremely suspect that it is largely assumed that she is the this uber skilled fighter who dwarfs the likes of Captain America, Batman, Daredevil, in fight skill even though she has never done anything even half as impressive as they have, and she is vastly superior physically.
Anyway Korvac has control over the Power Cosmic, Cap shouldn't be able to do anything to him that Korvac didn't want him to do; hence PIS.
