superman vs thor. it ends here

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So insulting people = good and fanboyism = bad? That's a horrible line of logic. I think the term "fanboy" is so wildly blown out of proportion on KMC nowadays anyway and is often used as a poor method of countering another's point or line of reasoning. And explain to me, what are "scraws" of defense? You called me out - again - and I responded. What, was I supposed to not defend myself to your accusation?

everyone got there own limits and definitions i rather be a rude person then a fanboy and there are a lot of fanboys around here fanboism is not when someone cant counter your argument he calls you a fanboy but its people like quanchi and rage who are fanboys to the point its stupid just like quan is a fanboy of thanos and thor or rage is a fanboy of thor or darkodin is a fanboy of odin which means they will never admit there favorite character will lose unless its something like thor vs living tribunal and i still can see them argue that the godblast will ko him so inmy book thats pathetic

so why are you trying to defend yourself against my claims if they arent true? if i am wrong then everybody should know that and you shouldnt even respond right? oris it that i am rightand you are trying to defend yourself which is the case you are a fanboy of thor or at leasy very biased towards him just like shokosugi is a superman fanboy only its1 superman fanboy vs 5-6 thor fanboys so of course they willmake him look as he is the only fanboy

Originally posted by muhaha_guy
everyone got there own limits and definitions i rather be a rude person then a fanboy and there are a lot of fanboys around here fanboism is not when someone cant counter your argument he calls you a fanboy but its people like quanchi and rage who are fanboys to the point its stupid just like namosubby is a fanboy of namor or quan is a fanboy of thanos and thor or rage is a fanboy of thor or darkodin is a fanboy of odin which means they will never admit there favorite character will lose unless its something like thor vs living tribunal and i still can see them argue that the godblast will ko him so inmy book thats pathetic

so why are you trying to defend yourself against my claims if they arent true? if i am wrong then everybody should know that and you shouldnt even respond right? oris it that i am rightand you are trying to defend yourself which is the case you are a fanboy of thor or at leasy very biased towards him just like shokosugi is a superman fanboy only its1 superman fanboy vs 5-6 thor fanboys so of course they willmake him look as he is the only fanboy

I'd think human decency would come into play and make you say "Better to be an overzealous fan of a fictional character than a rude and obnoxious bastard to people for no reason", to be honest 😬

And you can't see what's wrong about calling out all those posters and labeling them fanboys, especially when there's a good chance they won't see this? You claim things like "Oh, they would vote their favorite character to go over Living Tribunal" but don't even bother to cite specific examples or anything of the like. I mean, these "Thor fanboys" what do they say that marks them as fanboys aside from claiming Thor can or would beat a foe? I'm trying to wrap my head around your line of thinking (my mistake) and I don't even know where you get this notion from.

If someone accuses you of a crime, you defend yourself, right? From where I come from, not defending yourself or answering a challenge of your character is, at worse, almost as bad as admitting fault. So, again, the idea that me defending myself against your claims - which I find to be untrue and defamation of my character - is me trying to hide my "fanboyism"? And by defending myself, I've only outed myself as a biased Thor fanboy?

And Superman, believe it or not, has more detractors on KMC than he does have "fanboys". Most people hate Superman simply because he's Superman.

Why did you write that long post, just tell him to shut up.

Have you learned nothing from me?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why did you write that long post, just tell him to shut up.

Have you learned nothing from me?

No. 😮

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd think human decency would come into play and make you say "Better to be an overzealous fan of a fictional character than a rude and obnoxious bastard to people for no reason", to be honest 😬

And you can't see what's wrong about calling out all those posters and labeling them fanboys, especially when there's a good chance they won't see this? You claim things like "Oh, they would vote their favorite character to go over Living Tribunal" but don't even bother to cite specific examples or anything of the like. I mean, these "Thor fanboys" what do they say that marks them as fanboys aside from claiming Thor can or would beat a foe? I'm trying to wrap my head around your line of thinking (my mistake) and I don't even know where you get this notion from.

If someone accuses you of a crime, you defend yourself, right? From where I come from, not defending yourself or answering a challenge of your character is, at worse, almost as bad as admitting fault. So, again, the idea that me defending myself against your claims - which I find to be untrue and defamation of my character - is me trying to hide my "fanboyism"? And by defending myself, I've only outed myself as a biased Thor fanboy?

And Superman, believe it or not, has more detractors on KMC than he does have "fanboys". Most people hate Superman simply because he's Superman.

what really makes them thor fanboys aside from giving him any win posibble even when he cant win like against surtur is the fact that when ever thor lose in a comics on panel they imidiatly call it a PIS and make things out of there ass for thor like his recent fight with the hulk which was a good fight but again his fanboys clame its a PIS .. why? they dont explain its just a PIS because thor lost and even with the fact he is lying on the floor covered with his own blood and gurgle his blood they say he could beat hulk if hulk didnt "run" away Lol tell me its not a statement of a pure thor fanboy

and the recent fight with sentry if you can all it a fight they claim thor was weakend and now its sentry> weakend thor Lol even with the fact his attack was full power and it was never stated he was weakend i guess they made up that argument even before the fight so they will have a card in the sleeve just in case

Originally posted by muhaha_guy
what really makes them thor fanboys aside from giving him any win posibble even when he cant win like against surtur is the fact that when ever thor lose in a comics on panel they imidiatly call it a PIS and make things out of there ass for thor like his recent fight with the hulk which was a good fight but again his fanboys clame its a PIS .. why? they dont explain its just a PIS because thor lost and even with the fact he is lying on the floor covered with his own blood and gurgle his blood they say he could beat hulk if hulk didnt "run" away Lol tell me its not a statement of a pure thor fanboy

and the recent fight with sentry if you can all it a fight they claim thor was weakend and now its sentry> weakend thor Lol even with the fact his attack was full power and it was never stated he was weakend i guess they made up that argument even before the fight so they will have a card in the sleeve just in case

I think it's obvious Thor can't beat Surtur w/o PIS, plot device, or amps. Most fans will tell you that much. At best, he can attempt a BFR like he did previously.

And Thor's losses aren't all PIS. If Hulk beats Thor, it's not PIS at all. Now, if Hulk, in a round-about way, uses Thor's enchanted hammer to beat Thor himself up with it, it's dangerously close to PIS. The weapon obeys his mental commands and if Thor wanted to not have his own weapon bash his face in, why wouldn't he be able to do so? Hulk's strength + Mjolnir smashing his face in, while powerful, shouldn't be so jarring to Thor to stop him from willing Mjolnir to fly forward or out of his grasp. So basically, the writer assumes that Thor's durability and common sense and mastery of his own weapon < Hulk smashing the hammer in his face. It's not hard to see why people have issue with it.

And of course, there's the fact that said fight was alluded to be either a dream sequence or Banner unable to recall the fight properly by the phrase "Yeah right, and then I woke up."

And Thor was obviously weakened when he fought Sentry. Did you see how Coipel drew him? He wasn't at 100%. How weak was he? Who knows, but it was clear to me and most people he obviously wasn't at peak form. "I will smite you with all the power at his command" meant that Thor was using all he had left in his gas tank to hit Sentry. And his attacks succeeded in pushing Sentry back as well as breaking his physical shell, anyway.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If Hulk beats Thor, it's not PIS at all.

Um, yes it is. Hulk should never beat a high herald. Even H2H Thor would rip him a new one.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think it's obvious Thor can't beat Surtur w/o PIS, plot device, or amps. Most fans will tell you that much. At best, he can attempt a BFR like he did previously.

And Thor's losses aren't all PIS. If Hulk beats Thor, it's not PIS at all. Now, if Hulk, in a round-about way, uses Thor's enchanted hammer to beat Thor himself up with it, it's dangerously close to PIS. The weapon obeys his mental commands and if Thor wanted to not have his own weapon bash his face in, why wouldn't he be able to do so? Hulk's strength + Mjolnir smashing his face in, while powerful, shouldn't be so jarring to Thor to stop him from willing Mjolnir to fly forward or out of his grasp. So basically, the writer assumes that Thor's durability and common sense and mastery of his own weapon < Hulk smashing the hammer in his face. It's not hard to see why people have issue with it.

And of course, there's the fact that said fight was alluded to be either a dream sequence or Banner unable to recall the fight properly by the phrase "Yeah right, and then I woke up."

And Thor was obviously weakened when he fought Sentry. Did you see how Coipel drew him? He wasn't at 100%. How weak was he? Who knows, but it was clear to me and most people he obviously wasn't at peak form. "I will smite you with all the power at his command" meant that Thor was using all he had left in his gas tank to hit Sentry. And his attacks succeeded in pushing Sentry back as well as breaking his physical shell, anyway.

again hulk didnt grab his hammer he grab thors arm and thor wasnt expecting hulk to do something like that and even if he was expecting it happened too fast thor copuldnt stop mjolnir before it connected his face during a fight and after he got the first hit in the face he couldnt react he was too f^cked up and by you saying that his hammer and hulk strength is not enough to beat him is a biased and tupid clame seing how mjolnir is more powerful the thor and we dont know how strong was hulk because he was pissed and mad so we dont know how much stronger he grew he could be strong enough to bash the hammer so hard in thor face that thor gurgled his own blood like happened thats why this fight wasnt a PIS at all

the fight with sentry thor used his powers without being noted that he is weakened as we saw he used a powerful strike and everything he had,those are only your speculations that hewasnt at full power it was never stated on pannel, he was at full power when he got his shit caved in by the U FOES 🙂, and he hits sentry with all his might and it did NOTHING then sentry grab him and thor being all scared telling us that he is far superior to thor but the writer didnt let him kick thors ass because he probable didnt want a group of thor fanboys flaming him for that , so i have a question how weakened do you THINK thor was? and if he was lets say 100% how much better do you think he would deal sentry?

Originally posted by Placidity
Um, yes it is. Hulk should never beat a high herald. Even H2H Thor would rip him a new one.

Thor typically fights down to Hulk's level, though. Don't know why, but every time they throw down, Thor's usually engaging in melee tactics and brawling instead of using most of his other powers. Call it his sense of pride or CIS, but that's just how they fight all the time. And in that kind of fight, Hulk is more than capable of hanging with Thor. If Thor were to remember he has powers and ways of laying the Asgardian smackdown aside from brawling with a monster who was designed to brawl and win for the most part, then he'd beat his gamma ass more often than not.

Originally posted by muhaha_guy
again hulk didnt grab his hammer he grab thors arm and thor wasnt expecting hulk to do something like that and even if he was expecting it happened too fast thor copuldnt stop mjolnir before it connected his face during a fight and after he got the first hit in the face he couldnt react he was too f^cked up and by you saying that his hammer and hulk strength is not enough to beat him is a biased and tupid clame seing how mjolnir is more powerful the thor and we dont know how strong was hulk because he was pissed and mad so we dont know how much stronger he grew he could be strong enough to bash the hammer so hard in thor face that thor gurgled his own blood like happened thats why this fight wasnt a PIS at all

the fight with sentry thor used his powers without being noted that he is weakened as we saw he used a powerful strike and everything he had,those are only your speculations that hewasnt at full power it was never stated on pannel, he was at full power when he got his shit caved in by the U FOES 🙂, and he hits sentry with all his might and it did NOTHING then sentry grab him and thor being all scared telling us that he is far superior to thor but the writer didnt let him kick thors ass because he probable didnt want a group of thor fanboys flaming him for that , so i have a question how weakened do you THINK thor was? and if he was lets say 100% how much better do you think he would deal sentry?

Mjolnir isn't more powerful than Thor, though. It's a weapon, a focusing tool for his own innate godly powers. Aside from some of the plot deviceish capabilities it has, everything Thor is doing with Mjolnir is coming from him, albeit magnified and usually strengthened. He's the God of Thunder, not Mjolnir.

The U-Foes and Co aren't lightweights, though. Vector alone is a heavy hitter. All of them blasting in unison against a Thor who just got sucked attacked by Sentry isn't really a low showing for him. And your logic that he wasn't weakened because it wasn't stated means about as much as you saying Thor was scared of Sentry. It wasn't stated he was frightened or taken aback, so it must not be true.

And Thor at 100% vs. Void/Sentry is up in the air, in my opinion. Thor has a lot of things he can do, but most writers just like to show him hitting shit with his hammer or the odd lightning attack. In his weakened state, he was able to push Sentry back and damage his physical form, so it's anyone's guess as to what he could do at 100%. But we have to wait for Siege #4 to come out to be sure.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And in that kind of fight, Hulk is more than capable of hanging with Thor.

Thats where Thor's feats of strength, striking power, and durability disagree. In comics, Hulk will pretty much be able to "hang" with anyone in a melee brawl no matter how much stronger they are due to PIS.

This is the most accurate representation of what would happen to Hulk vs Superman or Thor.

Hulk is just a mid tier brick who wouldn't get owned straight up because of his healing factor, which I will admit is powerful. Other than that he ain't doing jack in PIS-less fight.

The likes of Superman and Thor lifts things on a planetary scale. Hulk lifts typical things like tanks and more impressively for him, mountains, and people act like its a big deal. Although most people don't see this because jobbing to Hulk is one of Thor's favorite past times.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Mjolnir isn't more powerful than Thor, though. It's a weapon, a focusing tool for his own innate godly powers. Aside from some of the plot deviceish capabilities it has, everything Thor is doing with Mjolnir is coming from him, albeit magnified and usually strengthened. He's the God of Thunder, not Mjolnir.

The U-Foes and Co aren't lightweights, though. Vector alone is a heavy hitter. All of them blasting in unison against a Thor who just got sucked attacked by Sentry isn't really a low showing for him. And your logic that he wasn't weakened because it wasn't stated means about as much as you saying Thor was scared of Sentry. It wasn't stated he was frightened or taken aback, so it must not be true.

And Thor at 100% vs. Void/Sentry is up in the air, in my opinion. Thor has a lot of things he can do, but most writers just like to show him hitting shit with his hammer or the odd lightning attack. In his weakened state, he was able to push Sentry back and damage his physical form, so it's anyone's guess as to what he could do at 100%. But we have to wait for Siege #4 to come out to be sure.

thor wins most of his fights with mjolnir he was even able to crack onslaught with it and being hit by mjolnir is stronger then being hit by thor fist

the u foes are nothing compared to the league you are trying to place thor in, and even taskmaster was able to land a hit and make him bleed which means taskamster with a shield is able to make thor bleed there goes his durability, and you are trying to excuse that by saying its because sentry hit him? so you want to tell me whe he foguth the u foes he was weakened just because that single punch from sentry? he shrug it off and bfr sentry with a punch and if you are saying a punch from sentry can weaken him like that then his durability is shit and he really cant be compared to the likes of superman, sentry hit ares with a punch like that and ares wasnt even hurt he got up and continue to fight sentry like nothing so saying thor was weaker when facing the u foes because of that sentry punch is retarded and your own wet thor fanboy dreams and even after the u foes blast he was standing and got one shotted by freakin osborn

you are asuming thor was weakened even with the fact it was never stated or seen in the fight as he used full power, me on the other hand i got evidance to back me up because you see sentry choke hold him and you can see on panel that thor is scared while being choked by sentry so again as always when arguing a thor fanboy i use things that actually happened in the comics while the thor fanboy is using his speculations

*shrugs* Well, when writers have character brawl with Hulk and ignore most of their other powers and abilities, Hulk will also be getting angrier and as a result stronger/tougher as well. I couldn't say what his "amping rate" is or even hazard a good guess, but it's enough for him to close the gap between himself and another from what I've gathered.

Originally posted by muhaha_guy
thor wins most of his fights with mjolnir he was even able to crack onslaught with it and being hit by mjolnir is stronger then being hit by thor fist

the u foes are nothing compared to the league you are trying to place thor in, and even taskmaster was able to land a hit and make him bleed which means taskamster with a shield is able to make thor bleed there goes his durability, and you are trying to excuse that by saying its because sentry hit him? so you want to tell me whe he foguth the u foes he was weakened just because that single punch from sentry? he shrug it off and bfr sentry with a punch and if you are saying a punch from sentry can weaken him like that then his durability is shit and he really cant be compared to the likes of superman, sentry hit ares with a punch like that and ares wasnt even hurt he got up and continue to fight sentry like nothing so saying thor was weaker when facing the u foes because of that sentry punch is retarded and your own wet thor fanboy dreams and even after the u foes blast he was standing and got one shotted by freakin osborn

you are asuming thor was weakened even with the fact it was never stated or seen in the fight as he used full power, me on the other hand i got evidance to back me up because you see sentry choke hold him and you can see on panel that thor is scared while being choked by sentry so again as always when arguing a thor fanboy i use things that actually happened in the comics while the thor fanboy is using his speculations

bye now. don't come back. please.

don't suppose there's any reason to leave this open?

Originally posted by -Pr-
bye now. don't come back. please.

don't suppose there's any reason to leave this open?

Well, the topic wasn't opened by the person you banned.

Just in case this closes...

Thor > Hulk Forever and ever, amen.

Originally posted by -Pr-
bye now. don't come back. please.

don't suppose there's any reason to leave this open?

pr.. i like you more then badabing but please shut up

How did kryptonite survive being inside a red sun?

Even if the vid is inaccurate it's still better than most of the comic related crap on Youtube.

superman stomps

Originally posted by Placidity
Um, yes it is. Hulk should never beat a high herald. Even H2H Thor would rip him a new one.

When will people realize that Hulk is a lot more than "just another class 100 character" ?