Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

Started by Wei Phoenix11 pages
Originally posted by Raoul

Your avatar makes all of your comments have a slight degree of smugness. Maybe its just me and the fact that I add a voice to everyone depending on how their avatar looks.

Originally posted by Ouallada
I don't think Superman matches up well with Stardust either, but that is not my point. Making lazy statements like:

is at best laughable and at worst pathetic. Simply illustrated with an example, if Thanos did not have the durability to wade through Odin's blast, would he have attempted a different approach? You bet. How Stardust acts in a fight against Bill (takes all the aforementioned physical blows) is no reflection on how Superman would perform against Bill, simply because Stardust CAN afford to take those hits and laugh them off.

Superman takes this not because he would do better against Stardust, but because he is simply a better physical combatant than almost, if not all herald level combatants out there.

Stardust was sent to stop bill but failed. 😕

Star dust was also koed by bill. 😕

I dont get your post

Originally posted by carver9 Stardust was sent to stop bill but failed. 😕
The planet exploded. There is nothing Stardust could have done to prevent that failure. I don't see how that shows BRB won that fight. BRB's goal was to destory the planet so Galactus could not feed he left after he finished this task.

Originally posted by carver9 Star dust was also koed by bill. 😕
No he wasn't. Stardust even said that BRB can't slay him where did you see a K.O'ed Stardust?

Originally posted by carver9
Stardust was sent to stop bill but failed. 😕

Star dust was also koed by bill. 😕

I dont get your post

Hence the moral victory.

None so blind as those who will not see.

Cows don't get Beethoven.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Your avatar makes all of your comments have a slight degree of smugness. Maybe its just me and the fact that I add a voice to everyone depending on how their avatar looks.

That's probably why everyone sees me as the cocky *******.

Probably..

Bill takes it.

Comparable durability, hammer nullifies hv(best weapon) comparable strength and just more anger to draw on.

Superman would take a few due to his speed.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman was koed when a sun went supernova, what are you talking about. 😕

Yes, but he's also ignored super novas, been in galaxy destroying blasts, been at the centre of stars collapsing into black holes...

Highest showings win.

Originally posted by kgkg
The planet exploded. There is nothing Stardust could have done to prevent that failure. I don't see how that shows BRB won that fight. BRB's goal was to destory the planet so Galactus could not feed he left after he finished this task.

No he wasn't. Stardust even said that BRB can't slay him where did you see a K.O'ed Stardust?

This doesnt look like a ko to you.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/624/stormbreaker0310im9.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2950/stormbreaker0311dg1.jpg

What about this
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3527/img022k.jpg

Here goes that tanaraq fight.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0840/OmegaFlight_5_0004
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0504/OmegaFlight_5_0005
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0907/OmegaFlight_5_0006

Originally posted by Private Pion
Yes, but he's also ignored super novas, been in galaxy destroying blasts, been at the centre of stars collapsing into black holes...

Highest showings win.

Recent showings puts supermans durability far below beta rays

Originally posted by carver9
Recent showings puts supermans durability far below beta rays

recent showings don't contradict older ones unless there's a consistent set of feats across books.

Originally posted by Raoul
recent showings don't contradict older ones unless there's a consistent set of feats across books.

Why doesnt it? We do go by on panel proof right?

Originally posted by carver9
This doesnt look like a ko to you.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/624/stormbreaker0310im9.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2950/stormbreaker0311dg1.jpg

What about this
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3527/img022k.jpg

Seems like clutching at straws to me.

Still, a battle against Stardust is entirely different from a battle with Superman.

^ Recent feats only count more if there is a salient event that actually acts as a retcon of sorts. IE Stranges depowering, DC's crisis etc. Otherwise, an average still applies. Otherwise, SS' stock would have fallen pretty low after a certain hammerlock.

Originally posted by carver9
Why doesnt it? We do go by on panel proof right?

Yes. CONSISTENT on panel proof. it's how we get an idea of a character's average level.

Originally posted by carver9
Why doesnt it? We do go by on panel proof right?
facepalm Carver....are you new here?
Originally posted by Raoul
Yes. CONSISTENT on panel proof. it's how we get an idea of a character's average level.
Originally posted by Raoul
Yes. CONSISTENT on panel proof. it's how we get an idea of a character's average level.

I agree but some of the things that you all use as proof is basically, DEBATABLE.

How about this, show me superman surviving a super nova (already know what scan you're going to use) and I'll tell you why its debatable.

Originally posted by Badabing
facepalm Carver....are you new here?

I agree but his recent showings against his durability has happened so much that you can basically call it consistent.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Seems like clutching at straws to me.

Still, a battle against Stardust is entirely different from a battle with Superman.

^ Recent feats only count more if there is a salient event that actually acts as a retcon of sorts. IE Stranges depowering, DC's crisis etc. Otherwise, an average still applies. Otherwise, SS' stock would have fallen pretty low after a certain hammerlock.

Not clutching straws, its right there in front of your face, he was knocked out twice. You dont want to accept the fact that you were wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree but his recent showings against his durability has happened so much that you can basically call it consistent.
There's only one constant in comics...Batman pwns! sneer

😛

Originally posted by Badabing
There's only one constant in comics...Batman pwns! sneer

😛

LOL